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submitted 1 year ago by LovelyA72@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

rt, will you ban it?

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Incentivizing a company to do anything besides turn a profit is impossible. You must beat them into submission so that the only choice they have is to conform with the overall public health policy. Removing subsidies on Corn would be a good idea to specifically address HFCS in everything. An even better idea would be to just socialize food production and remove the profit from it and instead prioritize healthy affordable food for the citizenry.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, if we're talking about impossible things, changing the world economic structure is one of them.

You can't socialize food production without socializing the entire economy of the world. Many countries rely on food production as their number one source of income. So you can't just socialize one industry. Let alone getting the world to play along.

An incentive could be "offer healthy alternatives otherwise something bad will happen." It requires meddling with the system and ignoring the free market, but sounds like I don't think you'd disagree with disruption in the free market.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

One country, the US, could absolutely take it's food off the world market and if I had the power to "ban" HFCS, I would 100% socialize US food production.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's not the way any of this works. You can't just change a portion of the system. The US imports a ton of food. Banning something is actually a realistic ability. Ingredients have been banned before. Creati ng a system that is doomed to failure due to not thinking about it for 3 seconds is a different class of ability. We're talking about changing the laws of a country, not breaking the laws of math and physics. I'm pro-socialism but this is an awfully thought out take. It would cause worldwide economic collapse and less to starvation around the world due to such an event.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

TIL portions of systems cannot be changed, ergo all systems are static unless they are destroyed.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No, you can change parts of it, but you can't just arbitrarily say any part can simply be replaced willy nilly. That's just childish. Changes have impact and consequences. You're literally ignoring cause and effect. I can see nothing is worth discussing with you though if you're going to respond with something a child would say. So we're done here.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

The premise is magically banning something. What do you expect?

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