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[-] miz@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

this piece in the Columbia Journalism Review by a western journalist who was there still has some of the liberal brainworms but solidly shows that the conventional narrative is bullshit:

The Myth of Tiananmen | Columbia Journalism Review

The problem is this: as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night in Tiananmen Square.

I look forward to hearing how a primary witness writing in CJR is unreliable

[-] unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth -1 points 5 days ago

Most of the hundreds of foreign journalists that night, including me, were in other parts of the city or were removed from the square so that they could not witness the final chapter of the student story.

Right, all the media was ushered out so that they couldn't see the peaceful ending. Seems legit. But OK, let's assume it's the case. Whatever.

Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances. [...] Many victims were shot by soldiers on stretches of Changan Jie, the Avenue of Eternal Peace, about a mile west of the square, and in scattered confrontations in other parts of the city

What are workers and passersby? Right, civilians.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm struggling to see what revelation you've identified here that is so scandalous. Yes, the Chinese government killed several hundred Chinese civilians surrounding the Tiananmen Square in the 1989 protests. Has anyone claimed otherwise?

Your original claim was that the man pictured in the OP in front of the tanks was executed. That claims remains as baseless as China overseas.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

jagoff whatever it takes for you to hide in your chauvinist fantasy

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago

Siri, how many American civilians are killed by cops each year?

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

It's fine to hold China, an actual democratic state, to a higher standard than the US. If anything it makes China look bad that you're comparing them to the great satan.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

I just think it's ridiculous that China-haters have to go back 30+ years to find one instance of the government doing something awful and in 🍔land we have little Tiannamen Squares on a daily basis.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

even when that instance wasn't even remotely as bad as they pretend it was, and is nothing like what the US does on any given week

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