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[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net -3 points 1 week ago
[-] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

EDIT: I apologize. This was a bit snarkier in tone than I intended, and probably escalated conversations in ways that I shouldn’t have. A more civil way to put it is I disagree on the standard of “seriousness” ascribed to the earlier Star Trek series; take the Riker maeuver, for instance.

Ah, yes, Star Trek, the “dead serious” show.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net -3 points 6 days ago

Red Letter Media just had a video about how Kurtzman Trek people who point to that DS9 scene overtly never saw that episode and looked up "silly Trek Scene" on Google. Same applies to your other gifs, tbh. You have overtly never seen these episodes. I don't see why you kids even bother arguing. You won. All 3000 of you get to enjoy Vampire Diaries in space while millions of old men weep...

lol. You out yourself by citing Red Letter Media as if that is anything to take seriously other than a source of potential mis/disinformation on any given topic.

I’ve been watching Trek since TOS was in first run. I’ve actually worked with real life military.

Your attitude and comments strongly suggest you have neither experience.

Current Star Trek is in no way less credible than the franchise was in any previous era of production. Yes, it’s making different choices for a different generation of audience but on balance it’s just as authentic.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net -2 points 6 days ago

Those choices are attracting an exponentially smaller audience, but like I said, you won, go enjoy Gossip Girl in space, its your franchise now.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

“The Magicians in Space”, “Vampire Diaries in Space”, “Gossip Girl in Space”, you’ve got a million of these. I’d have trouble naming so many shows I don’t like. I forget about them pretty quickly because I just stop watching them and never engage with their fandom.

Something to consider.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 6 days ago

They're all great shows, which are not Star Trek.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

That’s genuinely very confusing. When someone tells me a show is like another show I like, but in space, that’s usually an endorsement. Gene Roddenberry literally pitched Star Trek as “Wagon Train in Space”.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 0 points 6 days ago

I'd argue what defined Berman Trek in particular was being something uniquely high-minded and intelligent that was truly NOT [other series] in space by any measure. I also find it hard to believe that Wagon Train is terribly similar to OG Trek beyond people go place to place on a frontier, but maybe Wagon Train is way more cerebral and involves more strange fiction tropes than I would think, I've never seen it.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Haven’t seen Wagon Train either, but I’d guess Forbidden Planet and The Twilight Zone were actually bigger influences. But everything has some antecedent, no shame in that.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 1 points 5 days ago

Sure, but TOS is soooo much more than Twilight Zone in space. Is Kurtzman Trek really more than [insert YA series] in space?

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

We're only two episodes in, but yeah, I'd say SFA is angling for something pretty unique. Space setting aside, not many YA shows concern themselves with the nation-building of a failed state. I'm not hugely versed, but wrapping your second episode around a diplomatic conference seems pretty unusual for the genre.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 0 points 5 days ago

I'd potentially be open to watching an original YA space IP, but I don't consider that Star Trek, it's just slapping a Star Trek label on a thing, which actually harms both brands.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Maybe. It's certainly a gamble. I think it's off to a good start, so I hope it pays off. But mine isn't the job that's on the line, so I'm not gonna stress about it. I just watch if it interests me.

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