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"Russian War of Aggression" lol this is like when southerners call the civil war "the war of northern aggression". Just absolute cope to pretend they didn't do everything possible to start it. I guess nazis doing ethnic cleansing isn't worth stopping to you, huh?
"Umm no actually it's the russians who are nazis, not the nazis! You're a paid bot for remembering things! You're not a real person! I'm not a fascist btw"
Always projection with you nazis, huh?
Holy shit, you're finally starting to understand
Yes, asshole, the bloc that has supported Palestinian genocide to the hilt, imprisoned anti-genocide protestors, and armed Ukranian nazis in a campaign of ethnic cleansing that saw them murder 13,000 civilians in the Donbas Republics...are fucking nazis. I'm so glad you're starting to get it.
The key distinction with Ukraine is that the Banderites actually are in control of the state, and the various neo-Nazi groups are empowered by said state. Every state has Nazi groups, but Ukraine stands out in that said Nazi groups took power in a coup in 2014.
The EU is also fascist, as imperialism is declining they are surging to the right to force austerity at home. Same with the US Empire. The west is overwhelmingly fascist.
The annexation of Crimea happened after Euromaidan. Yanukovych, the democratically elected president, was faced with a loan from the IMF and a loan from Russia. The IMF loan required austerity, privatizing social services, etc, while the Russian loan did not. Yanukovych went with the Russian loan, which sparked anti-government demonstrations due to the far-right not wanting to be closer to Russia.
The west backed the Banderites, who committed the Maidan Massacre, coup'd Yanukovych, and this sparked Donetsk and Luhansk to secede (as they were regions that majority supported Yanukovych). Fast forward to 2022, and a decade of civil war later, Donetsk and Luhansk asked Russia for support, to which they agreed. This sparked the modern phase of the war.
In all cases, the origins were in a decision made by a democratically elected president to reject western forced austerity, which enabled the rise of the Banderites to state power.
So normally far right is always against some groups: nazi against jews, eu far right against immigrants etc
Who are ukrainian far right against? Russians?
Also why? For EU i think they work with bourgois cuz oppressed immigrants would work for cheaper
Whats then motive in Ukraine?
(Just some questions cuz you seem knowledgable on this topic)
Excellent question! In order to do the subject any justice, we need to explore fascism, Russia, and Ukraine, then circle back.
1. Fascism
In general, what is fascism, and what causes it? Fascism is, essentially, violent reaction to assert and maintain bourgeois hegemony. It rises in reaction to socialism, and to capitalist decay, coming from small business owners and sole proprietors above all else (who are pushed downward closer to the proletariat, their class position is precarious). Anti-communism is core to fascism, and usually nationalism is also core, which leads to attacking "out-groups."
Capitalist decay breeds reaction. It's also helpful to understand that as imperialism decays, austerity is forced inwards to cover costs. As profits from plunder go down, safety nets are trimmed so that the working classes absorb the brunt of the impact while the imperialist bourgeoisie stay on top, relatively unscathed.
2. Russia
The modern Russian Federation is a dictatorship of capital, sort of like a social democracy. Large state owned enterprises are leftovers from their soviet heritage, but the economy is thoroughly controlled by the nationalist bourgeoisie, the "oligarchs." Capitalism was devastating for Russia, so the second largest faction behind the nationalists are the communists, in the CPRF (not the pro-west liberals).
This causes the nationalists to try to appease the communists seeking a return to socialism by trying to claim soviet heritage as Russian heritage, not socialist heritage. It's a balancing act, where communists are gaining in power and the nationalists are losing power to them, but they are still far apart in terms of total power.
The nationalists gained power by kicking out western imperialists that looted the country in the 90s, but now they are losing their firm support amongs the public gradually to the communists.
3. Ukraine
Stepan Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist and Nazi collaborator. With the dissolution of the soviet union, these nationalist groups began to solidify, such as Azov. Capitalism brought rampant destruction and decay, and bred reaction.
Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe, and one of the most devastated by the dissolution of socialism. This became a ripe breeding ground for fascism. This is why they are tearing down soviet monuments, and upholding Stepan Bandera.
4. Circling Together
The far-right in Ukraine oppose Russia, yes. They do so as part of their anti-communist stances, opposing their own soviet heritage and despising Russia for refusing to do so. They also have connections to the western imperialist bourgeoisie, who have been supporting them for the same reasons they support Israel, as attack dogs. Within Ukraine, the Donbass region was historically Russian, and as such is also targeted by the Banderites in Kiev.
The 2014 Euromaidan coup allowed the Banderites to take power, oppressing Russians in eastern Ukraine, and allowing the west to imperialize and plunder Ukraine in exchange for personal wealth. Essentially, corrupt compradors were installed, modern Ukraine is a gangster state more than anything.
Leftover unresolved contradictions from the disollution of the USSR were leveraged by the west to spark the conflict and attempt to force Russia into opening their capital markets for foreign plunder as they already succeeded in doing in Ukraine.
Yes, the US is a nazi state, it directly served as inspiration to Hitler, actually.