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Greenland and Denmark unite against US advances before White House talks
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You went too far here. Europe is weak (because it's divided, because EU was never meant to be "strong" and always relied on soft power, because it has to fight all the same enemies as US does) but it's definitely not on the same team as US. Like, not even close. So far EU is keeping the moral high ground for example by respecting it's citizens rights. Some member countries are worse then others but as a whole EU is still far away from becoming an autocratic hellhole the US is.
Chat control doesn't sound very much like respecting citizen's rights
So true.
It's scary, it's like all the major developed civilizations are saying
"Look we're all spying on each other because we're definitely planning on fighting so you best either get out of our way or shut up about it."
Which part of it? I read the legislation and I think it does respect citizen's rights. Which paragraphs do you find problematic?
Perhaps the entire idea that the government can spy on all your communications?
You have to be talking about some different Chat Control because the one I read doesn't allow anything like that. At least I think it doesn't. Can you point me to the specific part that covers it? Maybe I missed it.
But seriously, I can see you read some scary headlines that have nothing to do with reality. Of course you're not going to read the legislation yourself and hearing it form some random guy on lemmy will not change your mind because you read it on some random blog so it has to be true but for anyone interested, the proposed law specifically says that “the regulation shall not prohibit, make impossible, weaken, circumvent or otherwise undermine cybersecurity measures, in particular encryption, including end-to-end encryption”.
OK, first off, fuck you and your smug-ass tone.
It seems that last year the legislation was amended and it removed the requirement that providers scan all messages and added the part that you quoted at the end. But it would require age verification which is something else of which I am opposed to the very idea.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/after-years-controversy-eus-chat-control-nears-its-final-hurdle-what-know
Oh shit, does that mean Europeans will get shot in the face now too? You know, to control their chatting. Like in the USA, if you say "I'm not mad at you", you get shot in the face.
Yeah, chat control is not great, but is FAR FAR FAR from what's happening in the Fascist States of America.
It didn't start with people getting shot in the face. Chat control is a big step in that direction.
You all are fighting on who's riding the biggest turd boat into the sea and you're both making find points :)
The US is putting Nazi slogans on the government speech podiums and trying to annex countries that are too weak to put up a fight.
The EU is trying to remove private communication.
I think the US is a about 11:59 on the doomsday clock, the EU is about 10:45
We're both mostly fucked, the EU has more time to turn around, but that's not likely either.