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Virgin Framework vs Chad ThinkPad
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T480 still has dual batteries and is plenty repairable / mod-able, thick / tough enough.
Ok. I had a t495 and that thing is just crap. Nice keyboard but it broke fast
Fair enough.
I have a gripe with the 80 series. The USB c ports aren't easily fixable and the laptop only charges through USB c. (also USB pd handshake blanking the screen on 7th gen Intel models, but that doesn't count).
So for example, my sister fucks up her power dedicated USB C port because shit happens. She's reliant on the last remaining one to keep working. It's not on a seperate daughter board like HP, which has some USB ports and the charger on seperate boards. I can replace that. I can't really microsolder.
Tbh my current work laptop is the same. It's usbc for charging only.
And it's not like there's complicated data lines or anything for the power specific port, it's USB 2 at best.
Valid. In fact the (thunderbolt) power port will self-destruct over a year or two without a firmware update (overheats), Lenovo used to replace 'em for free, not sure what the situation is now. I was lucky and got mine new in box (but at the second hand price) after the bios update was available, but it's something you should look out for when buying second hand. FWIW there's also a power port in the dock connector.
I'm gonna be real, I really dislike the t580. The keyboard is just awful. Again, my sister had 2 of them. One was my dad's old laptop and the other one is the replacement. The keyboard is so meh. Same with the track pad. The cooling solution is really nice. I like the captive screws. But using it is awful. I actually prefer the HP pavilion x360 that I essentially rebuilt twice over the t580.