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[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Yes and no. American military personnel absolutely murdered innocent civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Panama, Vietnam, Korea, Germany, Italy, Japan, ...

But not every one, not every day, not multiple times a day.

I know this sounds like "not all X are Y," and to some extent sure, but some mechanic or cook or logistics nerd who never touched a trigger after Basic isn't a murderer like the shit bag who killed Good or Pretti or the others is.

But they still supported the institution no? Hitler's cook can make the same claim

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Sure but by this logic every person who has paid taxes to the US, or imported things from the US, is culpable to a degree in war crimes. Is it kind of true? Yes. Is it a useful point? Not really, beyond pointing out the boundless capability of capital to abstract and distance its effects.

Your argument is "everyone is a sinner", what i am saying is being a hilter's cook or a deployed us army cook both are both conscious decision. A large chunk of taxes goes to building roads + other services. What is largely the effect of being deployed US army cook?

Can't believe i have to explain all this, i thought most people would be able to understand this without explanation

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Is it a conscious decision if it's the only employment you can secure? The system we live under is designed precisely to coerce people into work that they otherwise wouldn't do under threat of starvation. There's a reason army recruiters go to poor schools.

[-] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Any cog in a looking machine is a killer, even if it isn't a bullet.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

And neither were drafted.

[-] Gathorall@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Why go so far? Hitler's only confirmed kill in WWII was Hitler, great guy by their logic. Or not so great because he shot the great pacifist leader Hitler.

[-] texture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i think the "countless civilians every day" was more meant to be a reference to the total deaths per day by the hands of the american forces, not every single soldier individually. poorly worded, but it is a tweet, so thats kind of expected.

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