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Actually I looked up the real story of Johnny Appleseed and he was more about making hard cider and selling land. 🙃

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[-] GhostPain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Correct, it was a land grab scam based on the laws of the time.

IIRC, if he planted trees it was then his land because he was using it, so he could then sell it for actual money. This was after the military had killed or chased out the natives who lived on it, of course.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

IIRC

You don't recall correctly, and I have no idea where you got that information. Appleseed actually was a successful businessman who bought some land, owning about 1200 acres (~5 km^2^), but by all accounts he was a genuinely good person, and I've never heard what you're saying (and not substantiating) that he did.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Ah but you see, their comment has the message of "capitalism bad", so it doesn't really matter if what they wrote is true.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'd go even further and say that this is more generic than capitalism/anticapitalism wish fulfillment. It's a desire to speak truth to power but without any of the effort or sincere curiosity to learn what that truth is. To have that truth condensed onto a smaller and smaller spoon until you don't even realize you're being spoonfed at all is the ideal.

Sorry for the YouTube link, if anyone can find it hosted elsewhere let me know I'll update my post.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aD_Tyj-wbC4

Johnny never really profited. By all accounts he was likely neurodivergent and Apple Trees were his special interest. His labor and efforts to educate others was leveraged by others to snatch land up and proof of improvement to the land for homesteading.

The US government was absolutely at fault for the genocide of indigenous peoples. But Johnny was at worse a useful idiot and at best a roving horticulturist who wasn't very good at owning land.

[-] GhostPain@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Useful idiot or not, the fact is, according to The Technician at least, he was a successful businessman, so somebody is wrong here.

I'm too old and cynical to believe that it wasn't a scam, ND or not, and that doesn't absolve him from complicity.

[-] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do you have any sources that support your argument?

[-] GhostPain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Probably, but I don't care enough to look them up.

Factoids aren't my special interest any more since I became disabled.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

If you aren’t going to find sources to backup your nonsense then please just keep it to yourself.

[-] GhostPain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago
[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Alright well no one wants to hear it so idk what you hope to accomplish.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 0 points 1 week ago

You'll go about spouting things as if they are facts, and when questioned you simply hand-wave them away as if checks comments "being old" and "being disabled" are in any way supporting your point.

You sound exactly like my MAGA in-laws.

[-] GhostPain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I can see you don't come from a very smart family then.

At some point you'll realize that not every little thing you say needs a citation because some kid on the internet gets his panties in a twist.

Calm down, buddy, you're gonna pop a blood vessel.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, ad hominem attacks because you can't counter anyone's points.

I see my maga boomer comment was spot on.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And for some reason they thought you came from your in laws?

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago

Then why are you caring enough to continue being a nuisance?

Either you have something of substance to say on the matter, or you shut up and listen what people that have can tell you, arrogant old man.

[-] GhostPain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I'm both easily entertained and easily amused.

And you guys are apparently so thin-skinned you can't help being reactive little bunnies.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

Let me elaborate, because your ego-driven brain didn't register what i said.

You're not laughing at my expense, you're laughing while shitting your own pants. I pointed that out, and now you're saying that you're feeling amused because of how thin-skinned i am.

The only thing i feel, is distaste and resentment towards your inability to accept the fact that you're wrong at something as minor, your pathetic attempts to heal your wounded ego after, and your supposed tendency to make yourself feel good at the expense of others.

The last one is especially ironic considering that you seem to be far left.

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