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this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2023
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I would agree to algorithm-generated timelines if I could opt-out of them and not have them turned on behind my back like what happened constantly with Facebook (to the point I had to use a browser plug-in to force the feed I wanted!) and Twitter. If other people want to abrogate their own responsibility to curate their own world for the ease of letting someone else decide what goes before their eyes, that's no skin off my nose. It becomes a problem only when that's forced on me.
The problem is, as we’ve seen repeatedly with the corporate “social” media platforms, algorithms will eventually be turned on by default with no way to turn them off. The only rational path, to my mind, is to never turn them on in the first place.
There would be no reason for a non-commercial site to forcibly turn them on, especially in an environment with the relative ease of moving that the Fediverse offers.
Corporate sites turn them on because they're milking you for ad clicks and personal information. You make them money the more often you click things. Private sites, conversely, LOSE money if you stay there 24×7. The dynamics are different.
Oh, I agree on all points. My post wasn’t clear. I meant to say that if algorithms were available at all, they would eventually be forced on everyone due to making moderations easier by reducing the number of posts that are actually seen. Hence the only rational approach being to never develop them in the first place.
I'm not sure because that could be a feature of some instances: we have chronological timelines come to us! Would instances without eventually win? Not necessarily, right? So I don't think that to be a necessity