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[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why does Apple feel they deserve a 30% cut? In cases like this, Apple aren't providing any value at all.

  • Apple aren't providing the content - the creator is.
  • Apple aren't providing a platform for the content - Patreon is.
  • Apple aren't providing a platform for discovery - people aren't finding Patreon creators solely via Apple products.

Sure, Apple are providing a payments platform, but why do they deserve 10x what Stripe charges?

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

It's just platform-milking, just like Meetup.com's latest antics; there isn't deep analysis needed to everything, haha. "Capitalism" is totally a legitimate answer despite being just one word.

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago

Meetup is now owned by Bending Spoons, who have also enshittified wetransfer, Evernote, eventbrite, AOL, vimeo. They buy decent products that never exploded to ipo status, fire everyone and milk the rest for whatever they can charge.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why does one company need to own meetup and eventbrite?

Is that not a monopoly? How does it not violate any anti-trust laws?

Edit to add: how long before we see a fediverse events app?

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago
[-] JamieDub86@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

You got a link to what meetup has been up to?

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

No, but I used to be more active until I saw that they started to increasingly prevent you from talking to other participants, and even seeing who other people are (can't even tell gender or anything) unless you paid for their higher tier. I literally saw it get added out of the blue after years of no such restrictions, and they've only dug deeper and deeper. I couldn't even connect with someone with whom I met just because I didn't attempt to get their number immediately on the spot.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

They provide the payment system. They also mandate it.

If you subscribe on the website you don't have to pay the extra. It's only for subscriptions initiated via the app

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

An app you can only get via the Apple store, mandated by Apple?

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is THE way that Apple gets any revenue from the enormous and highly successful app platform and ecosystem they created. They say “go nuts, make money on our platform, but share some with us in exchange for our maintaining that platform.” This is reasonable. Apple is providing a service to Patreon, and access to their tremendous user base. That ain’t nothing.

I agree that subjecting creator donations to the 30% is about the shittiest use case for this and I wish they would make an exception. But your post about how Apple is doing absolutely nothing here is garbage.

[-] dan@upvote.au 0 points 1 month ago

Apple is doing nothing in this particular case, not in general. There's cases where the 30% is more justified.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh is there some case where Apple is creating the content inside the app??? Do tell.

[-] lofuw@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

Why does Apple feel they deserve a 30% cut?

Because they can. Time and time again, useful idiots have proven their dipshittery by sucking off the people taking them for a ride.

A main tenant of business decisions is to fuck over your customers as hard as they're willing to be fucked. Since nobody has any standards these days, corporations make a killing.

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