this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2026
64 points (86.4% liked)
MeanwhileOnGrad
2127 readers
74 users here now
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
Welcome to MoG!
Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether it be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users, as it handwaves their extremism.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in arguments that lack mutual agreement.
Brigading — If you're here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from voting, commenting, or manipulating the post in any way. This includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be banned.
Tankies can explain their views, but may be criticised or challenged for them. Any minor infraction of the rules may result in a warning and possibly a temporary ban.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically last only 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction doubles the duration. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Unjust laws should never be obeyed.
It's not that simple though. Run an instance that is dedicated to German speakers and not a specific political standpoint. The laws we have to obey are hatespeech laws. The laws don't ban antizionism, they however ban glorification of murdering innocents of a certain ethnicity. Doesn't matter which ethnicity. Some people are just sore they can't voice antizionist critiques without losing themselves in a violent and hateful dream.
Here's the rub bud, if you really were fundamentally against Zionist oppression you would feel appalled by uplifting Zionists and censoring anti-Zionist sentiment including less than polite antifascists.
There are two options, first one is move Feddit out of Germany. I realize that might not be feasible but it is technically possible and would remove the problem of complying with the laws of a state that has literal compelled speech requirements that favor Zionism and Zionists. The second option is more personal, if you yourself actually despise supporting Zionism (I'm pretty sure this If is hypothetical from what I've seen) and you really didn't agree with or support it. You can resign from Feddit and no longer be complacent in the censoring of anti-Zionists or anti-fascists. But I say this is hypothetical because from what you've said in your other comments, I don't really believe you are against Zionism where it counts. Murder and direct violence sure, but the more subtle and more systemic problems of Zionism, not so much. You wouldn't be using strawman arguments to try and justify yourself if you were actually in favor of anti-Zionist sentiment.
Even if you didn't do either of those things, continued to work for Feddit and ban anti-Zionists and antifascists but didn't try to justify it or use some strawman argument to say "No no, they were actually bad people, trust be bro" I would still respect you more than I do now. Because it is not respectable to apologize for uplifting Zionism, silencing criticism of it, and then saying that you stand by doing that. What you have been doing reeks of Liberal Zionist apologia. And it is fucking gross as hell.
Firstly, I am not the owner. I am a voluntary admin and I have had it with your strawmen and badjacketing. I don't get why I constantly have to be on the defense just because you can't get into your thick skull that I am not a Zionist and things arent as extremely black and white as you make them out to be. I don't give a crap if you are anti-Zionist or Zionist. You misbehave on Feddit and can't voice your opinion without bigotry, you face the consequences! You can't not be toxic? Then shut the hell up! Calling toxic behavior "less than polite antifascist" is just bad antifascism. I have responsibilities as an admin and I try my best that I am fair to everybody and not just a specific interest group.
Sure, Feddit has a bunch of Zionists on it, because a lot of Germans are that way. Feddit.org is however a server originally intended for German speakers (and beyond) and not for specific political groups. We have rules and they count for everybody. You violate them, you bear the consequences.
That said, calling for the destruction of any country including Palestine, can be legally understood as a call for also the destruction of the country's citizens. That's why it is an issue.
The thing is that its easy to talk about being brave. Its another to actually.
Its easy to imagn being Rosa Parks. Its good to want to be like her. Its very hard to actually be and all the thankless negatives that come with it.
I agree, it is very hard to actually be the one to make change in the world and it is a very scary and hard thing to be like Rosa parks. Especially since the rest of society will try to Gaslight you and say you are evil for doing this stuff. I wouldn't blame someone for staying quiet and trying to avoid problems.
That said I would and will blame people for doing the opposite and trying to be Sam Ervin, if we're going to use the Rosa parks analogy, as he used his power to promote and justify the evil out of a desire to conform and keep things the same. This is not excusable, because it causes the same amount of harm as promoting the harmful ideas with the intent to cause harm. It is my opinion that instead of being quiet or trying to avoid problems, OP is taking the Sam Ervin route so to speak.
Should runs into the problem of what happens if you don't.
If you can get away with disobeying senseless laws, you should. But when you're a very easy target, like an established web server hosted in the country in question, you do have to play some risk-reward calculations in your head to decide if this is the hill you want to die on.
A particularly iconoclastic anarchist might legitimately argue that underage individuals should not be subjected to additional privacy laws when online, as a form of ageism, but they might want to sit down and take a long and hard look at whether that's really what they want their website to have a showdown with the state on, simply within the context of their own ideology.
Don't throw good resources away on losing battles. Be strategic.
Just want to clarify that the last thread the OP posted before being banned was them arguing with a lemmy.ml user that they aren't perpetrating censorship of anti-zionist content, while describing how they censor anti-zionist expression on Feddit.
Why ban?
I also got recently permabanned (reason: Golden Rule #8) from Ye Power Trippin Bastards after I posted Dessalines banning me on .ml despite not having posted anything there in three weeks.
I'm speculating here but I would assume that either the lemmy.ml admins came across the thread and saw their zionist apologia, or the lemmy.ml user snitched on them to ml's admins (either by report or by DM/off-platform). I make no assertions as to which of these are more likely as this is only speculation.
I speculate that their comments apologizing for censorship of anti-zionist sentiment while arguing with a lemmy.ml user was the cause of their ban. It could be something different of course, but it was so close it's very likely. Also they have very little other participation on lemmy.ml (only enough to trigger a community ban from c/memes so it was likely something recent.