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MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
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Yep. Like an hour ago.
You got banned from lemmy.dbzer0.com entirely. I mean I could've seen it coming from 100 miles away. They did make this proposal in the governance community little more than a month ago and it passed with massive support.
Interesting.
That figures. YPTB, for whatever reason, always defends lemmy.ml and tankies and will ban anyone who doesn't think Israel should be destroyed.
Dbz0 is a very antisemitic instance. They don't allow any comments or accounts whatsoever defending Israel, even if it's the innocent civilian populace.
Holding all Israelis accountable for Zionism is not Anti-Zionism: it's collective guilt, which is antisemitic and racist.
A good rule of thumb to determine racism is if you assign blame based on something someone cannot choose, such as their ethnicity, religion or ancestry, then it's racist. An Israeli civilian, born in Israel, does not volunteer to be zionist and shouldn't be held accountable for it.
I've found this is a good way to determine if someone is antisemitic or not: Many Israelis and Jews support Zionism, that is, the existence of Israel as a Jewish State. Should being Israeli or Jewish automatically make someone responsible or subject to different treatment because of Zionism or Israel’s actions?
Oh I have understood by now that they don't care about Israeli civilians. I have been arguing with this guy who keeps badjacketing me and any defense of anything that has to do with Israel even if it is just the uninvolved populace (it is unfair to claim every Israeli supports the ruling party, see protests against Bibi) somehow makes me a liberal Zionist. I am more of a non-Zionist. Any remedial solution that enables Palestinians and Israelis to peacefully coexist is fine with me and yes the settlements in the Westbank that break international law need to be dismantled.
Addendum: I don't think Israel should be a Jewish ethnostate.
Yeah, I agree, there should be no such thing as any sort of ethnostate. Or even a religious state for that matter.