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[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

We deal with a lot of people telling us all sorts of bs and speaking over us when we talk about historical facts that we actually researched, or even our own lived experiences for those of us who live through invasions, coups and so on.

We see the genocides going on right now, and when we sit down to learn more we find out that there have been endless such cases perpetuated by the same capitalist class for capitalist interests, we learn about the torture, the humiliation, the meticulous extermination of whole peoples with their languages and cultures gone forever, just because their labor or their land has value that capitalists wanted to extract and plunder. I'm too young to have lost someone personally, but when my parents were children we had a US backed dictatorship that disappeared children like them, alongside leftists, liberals, indigenous people... The US taught our military torture methods and bribed them to keep going, and when they were finally gone we inherited a fucking DEBT that we literally can't repay you, and because we can't repay you we need to keep getting loans from your country, with strings attached, like more austerity, as our people die homeless and cold. And if we succeed to get a proper socialist government while playing by the rules that your government imposes, they'll just coup us, like they did to Salvador Allende. Surely you see why we're angry now. It's not personal. If you don't wanna talk to us, you can opt out, it's whatever to us.

[-] BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago

I 99.5% agree and sympathize. I know how lucky I am that the biggest existential threats I've faced are depression and joblessness, and a lot of my friends are much less lucky. I don't know how to fight for them while also making sure they're safe.

The remaining half a percent is when you say it's not personal. A lot of these memes and a lot of comments I get from MLs seem quite personal, treating "liberals" as a monolith.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

That's just because you lack understanding. Liberals are "treated as a monolith" because each individual on their own is irrelevant compared to the systems and superstructures they uphold. You're stuck in the individualist view which is largely unhelpful for serious or proper political analysis which the jokes and memes then flow from.

[-] BiteSizedZeitGeist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't agree but I understand. I find it extremely frustrating that it's so difficult to organize my fellow Americans to respond to the injustices we all see and agree on. That said I'm not at all convinced to give up whatever individualism I have. I don't see individualism/collectivism as so black-and-white, or even one-dimensional.

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