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[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

He's still right in this instance.

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Exactly. The number of people on Lemmy who simp for Valve’s monopoly just because Epic (along with every game developer, big or small) stands to benefit is kind of shocking.

[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It isn't a monopoly because they don't require you to use their store. Epic has a monopoly of epic exclusive games.

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

And ecommerce sellers don’t “have to” sell on Amazon, so they don’t have any market power they can abuse to extract 40-50% fees from sellers, right?

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They don’t. My small business sells direct from our site instead of in Amazon, and we do okay.

[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Amazon requires price matching for most sellers, which is shit and makes this an apples to oranges comparison.

Could Steam back down on their 30% cut? Sure, but not a monopoly.

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It’s not apples to oranges, because the network effects (and coercive pressures they create) are in fact incredibly similar: sellers have to go where most customers are, and most PC gamers begin and end their search for games on Steam, just like most online shoppers begin and end their searches on Amazon.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I get I am not the average gamer, but even if I find a game on Steam, I tend to check their website too.
Specially for games I like, I try getting the GoG version despite Steam providing regional pricing, which tends to be 0.2x

Now if any of Steam's contracts is preventing GoG or others from providing regional pricing, that's a point worth considering.
But Steam is providing a much better game finding experience than Epic and others (although GoG seems to be doing well too, recently), so despite me not being affected by the network effect, I do see some value in Steam.

From what I see, Steam does give value to gamers. Whether it's worth 30% of the game's price or lesser, depends upon information that I don't know. But if someone provides greater value than the competitors, should they not get more money in return?

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It doesn't have anything to do with Epic, it's because Steam provides a great service with a ton of features nobody else offers, and Valve has demonstrated time and time again that they make policies that benefit consumers.

It would be great if Steam had some competition, but Epic ain't it. What people want is another service of equal quality to Steam. Instead the best we have is GOG and that still falls well short of feature parity nevermind the anti-consumer cesspool of Epic.

Suing Valve isn't going to do anything to improve the situation. Realistically what could Valve do to be "less of a monopoly"? Lower the percentage they take of sales? Consumers wouldn't see any benefit from that only developers. Ironically it would also increase Valves monopoly because if they took a smaller cut there would be even less reason for companies to sell on Epic as Epics lower cut is literally the only reason developers (outside of Epic literally paying some of them mounds of cash by way of exclusivity contracts) pick Epic over Steam.

If Epic really wants to do something about Valves monopoly it's simple, they just need to offer all the same features that Steam does. Things like family sharing, streaming support, a cross platform store and launcher, and an excellent review system so people can better understand the games they're thinking about buying. Until that happens yes people will stick with Steam because it's the objectively superior experience.

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