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Yeah persona 4 is one of the less debatable ones. The whole game is about accepting your assigned role in society. It's actually pretty shitty in a lot of ways, and if it weren't for it having interesting "Monster catcher rpg" battle mechanics and Persona 5 having a somewhat anti-status quo message, I'd probably hate the series tbh.
I don't understand how anyone could think the Fallout series is conservative though. The whole series makes fun of US cold war paranoia.
It's also very funny that most of these are just interactive US army recruitment ads, like Call of Duty.
Fallout is conservative coded. If you don't analyze the themes deeply, as a conservative wouldn't, you get a game markedly free of any liberal aestetic. You get multiple kinds of fascism you can join. A fundamental distrust of outgroups. Gun worship. Boomer music. I am pretty sure most the characters are white and male like in most video games but I can't be bothered to check.
“conservative coded if you don’t analyze the themes deeply” is very generous. i feel like fallout is pretty blatant with its satire. conservatives just continue to be the least media literate people on earth and despite the games doing all but literally saying “we’re making fun of your dumb ass worldview” they still think its glorifying conservatives and capitalism
Maybe. Don't we usually ironically appreciate their satire of us? They love fascism and hypocrisy so we really aren't hitting them hard when we make fun of them about it. They liked American history X. Satire is especially ineffective against them.
From what I remember of playing New Vegas years ago it was pretty diverse
Edit: Actually never mind now that I think about it it probably was mostly just different looking white people
New Vegas, where you can take over as "benevolent" dictator, hand it all over to a capitalist that would make the monopoly man blush, "might makes right" historical cosplayer caesar, or the NCR which is effectively pre-trump america 2.0 spread way too thin (admittedly I'm not as familiar with all the issues of this group as people tend to accept them as the default "good guys" lol). It brought us the violently isolationist Boomers (the jokes write themselves) and the wonderful line "Degenerates like you belong on a cross".
That's all without going into the DLC.
Don't get me wrong, the game is great. But I can see a lot of people missing the criticisms and challenge to try and pick the least worst options who instead would see it as endorsement of their particular yuck.
Also the specific entry they chose is FO3 LMAO
The NCR in New Vegas is clearly a nation overtaken by oligarchs deteriorating because they are slowly hollowing out the wealth of the nation.
Their whole lore is being founded as a “commie” republic, but by the time of New Vegas the Brahmin Barons took over, because of the ~republic~ part of it.
I could easily be wrong but it every big NPC I can think of is so.
Well, from a certain point of view, you could say it has a pretty dismal outlook on humanity constantly reverting to wars for land and resources even after being blasted to the stone age. No wasteland polity could be considered even remotely socialist or thinking about moving beyond the value form, aside from the Vaults ironically in a roundabout way, or the Followers who never really grow beyond being a wandering group of idealists (I've seen people claim the Minutemen are, but IMO it's a bit of a stretch). That said, I think even the newer games have more depth beyond that, and there is something optimistic that Humanity will band together and cling to life no matter what, often times rejecting the seemingly "easy" path of individual opportunism for a greater good.
If you consider Word of God important, Chris Avellone clarified from the start that he never intended for Fallout or its takeaway "War Never Changes" to be anti-capitalist but rather some generic doomer muh human nature spiel, and tried to insinuate the perfidious Chicoms were just as much to blame for the nuclear apocalypse as the literal fascist American empire, as if that makes it a critique about communism too. Funnily enough, people give Bethesda and Toddy shit for trying to tear down the "rebuilding civilization" aspect of Fallout in favor of a generic Mad Max kind of setting, but Avellone originally intended for another catastrophe to reset the West Coast's progress to 0. That's what Lonesome Road was supposed to be about in theory (which is laughable given that the Wasteland has gone through far worse than fucking Tunnelers).
Of course, he's become unhinged on social media over the years and sucks off
so you can dismiss anything he has to say. Death of the Author and all that.
That sucks. I like the anticapitalist interpretation better
not to mention all the mysogyny of most japanese games like this.