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[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Fascism is what you get when Aristocracy gets a business degree. The difference between a feudal lord and a CEO is non-farm income.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 20 hours ago

Fascism is what you get when Aristocracy gets a business degree. The difference between a feudal lord and a CEO is non-farm income.

Far, far from it. Despite the casual use (including by me!) of aristocracy for any entrenched elite, there is a non-negligible difference between actual aristocrats and plutocrats. Long story short, aristocrats are dependent on social capital and extraordinary legal privileges; plutocrats are dependent on financial capital. The tension between these competing sources of elite power has fueled many pre-modern conflicts. The two can blend, and there's rarely a 'pure' example of either, but they're aren't quite equivalent either. A majority-owner of a modern farming conglomerate does not base his power on the same foundation as a feudal lord, and vice-versa.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

In principle you are correct, in practice the functional difference is very much negligible. As anyone who has ever tried to hold a plutocrat accountable in court can tell you, their equality under the law is more theoretical than how the world really works. The cults of personality, the careful reputational management, the nepotism and cronyism, dynastic rule and insularity, it's all there, it's just got a different window dressing.

On paper their power is different. In practice, not so much.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago

As anyone who has ever tried to hold a plutocrat accountable in court can tell you, their equality under the law is more theoretical than how the world really works.

That's not the point being made by the legal distinction. The point is not that a plutocracy is vulnerable to the rule of law while an aristocracy is not - the question of the strength of rule of law is separate from the question of aristocracy or plutocracy. The point is that the basis of aristocratic power comes (in part) from a position of extraordinary legal privilege, not simply being able to escape consequences for crimes.

The cults of personality, the careful reputational management, the nepotism and cronyism, dynastic rule and insularity, it’s all there, it’s just got a different window dressing.

What you're complaining about ere can be applied to any elite.

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

The point is that the basis of aristocratic power comes (in part) from a position of extraordinary legal privilege, not simply being able to escape consequences for crimes.

We're so very close but we're not quite getting that last point. What I'm saying is it's a distinction with very little meaningful difference. It's interesting from an academic point of view, but that's it. How they rationalize their privilege and sell their legitimacy to people makes no difference.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 17 hours ago

It's more than just academic. The question is not whether aristocracy or plutocracy acts in a fundamentally better or worse way than the other, which you seem to be focused on, but whether they act in a different way from the other, which they very much do. The basis of their power comes from different roots, and because of that, they have different interests, different goals, different avenues of action, different preferences in compromise with wider society. Failing to understand that will result in failing to understand the reasoning for political maneuvering by one or the other.

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can't imagine the apathy these people have for human* rights, despite seeing the actions this apathy leads to every day

[-] stray@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

What does it mean that you've put an asterisk next to human? Is it just because of the context of vampires or is there like a broader meaning I'm not familiar with?

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Oh no, I had a feeling that wasn't the best terminology. I've offended the bees, haven't I?

[-] stray@pawb.social 1 points 20 hours ago

I'm not offended, if that's what you mean. I'm just curious what it means because I haven't seen it before and can only guess.

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Oh I just made a spelling mistake and was trying it into a dumb joke

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