I remember having a look at Zulip while I was on Jlailu and I found it… confusing, like really. People (maybe it was you?) mentioned goin to this or that room, clicking this or that and that seemed obvious...

Zulip have a huge learning step when you are not used as any software. I used so many different software, OS that i tend to see common pattern and may not realize the difficulty for other users.

I can explain it again. The main difficulty on Zulip is moving to the correct topic and writting there. Then learning that you can move your message in any topics. I created tutorial to help new users.

This is probably a silly idea but since we’re already using Piefed/Lemmy why not create a dedicated Piefed/lemmy community as a welcome place while reserving that extra chat app for people who would already have decided to commit themselves a little more?

The idea is good :) i have this community !fediverse@piefed.social and the chat is ready for quick organization. So for me it is enough as we are small. Lastly, i manage too many communities. :)

There is another reason, i may create one later but the fedihacks is for the fediverse and i prefer piefed, there is a conflict of interest. Matrix isn't good for what i want to achieve. Zulip chat is neutral and have nice feature for organization. :)

Keep in mind almost everything organic starts with a tiny little seed, planted in the ground or in a womb. It doesn’t begin its life as an already complex organism— [...]

But that's the first step :)

I'm trying to reach people, i'm trying to group them. I did my best to explain why i want to create a fedihacks and what we can do :)

• meeting at a coffee, associations…
• translation
• wiki : admin & user documentation
• coding apps & software
• creating new software
• talking to people on the street
• fediparty

So the first thing is grouping us together then you share what you want to do. The general list is ready...Later we can organize more precise tasks for the 7-8 March.

Precise tasks will come later : they will come themselve because we found issue, goal...during our discussion.

When you create a project, a collective, the first step is never clear. It is lot hard work.

The first step is what we do right now, in the comment : we group together, we share ideas and talk. That's why we created several posts on fedihacks and we will continue to do so.

That's a nice follow up with the reccuring monthly post "what software feature do you enjoy the most". It give us some design idea, allow us to explore, get some inspiration.

Once we have a core for fedihack with several people, it will change drastically and self organize. For now, there is just few of us.

For example, let's take Wikipedia. I want to do a wiki page but i never tried it. I come to this event, that's the first step. i don't ask wikipedia what we will do, i go there. I discover how it works then i decide if it is for me or not.

Then someone explain to me how wikipedia works, give me some training then ask me what are my hobbies and invite me creating a page about my hobbies.

We could do a OpenStreetMap session too. You come, tell us about you, then we explain and invit you to map some area.

I can discuss things that need to be discussed. I should also be able to write some how-to (the kind that beginner users will most likely be looking for, not guides for experts which I’m not). But in the end it all depends what work will indeed need to be done and like you noted that would need to be discussed

This part is helping me a lot. :) As i said, the fist step is coming here, the second step is discussion than the precise task will show themselve. Look below, we will slowly turn it into a more directive one like you wanted. :)

Which fedi software do you like ? Have you found a wiki about it ? Was it easy to understand ? Are wiki complex to read and understand ?

I mean content that is good enough to trigger a desire to participate more from other users.

You already know that we do our best, we simply share what we like and think. And you are already understand and trying to improve in your own way. :)

That's kinda why i want to organize the fedihacks : promote the fediverse with good wiki, good apps, good promotion. Any help is welcome. :)