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[-] cynar@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

In France, the worst they will likely be met with is water cannons, tear gas, and potentially rubber bullets/beanbag rounds.

In America, it's more likely to be automatic assault rifles.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago

Sure and that gets a wikipedia page for you to cite. You're not wrong, just heavily downplaying the problem with this whataboutism. It's not about France where this thing is an exception, but about the US where this is becoming the norm.

[-] rockstarmode@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

automatic assault rifles

This is redundant, by definition all assault rifles have auto or burst fire modes. Anyone (including lawmakers) in the US who claims otherwise is incorrect.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I'm not American. I'm only aware of them in passing. It's not the sort of thing we learn about in school, over here.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 3 months ago

I learned about this stuff from video games. The MA5B is full auto.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

What about burst fire?

[-] discocactus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah that's not true. Semiautomatic assault rifles are very common in the US, more available by far than full auto.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago

You say that like you can’t get your own automatic assault rifles in America.

[-] butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

You can't. I feel like you don't know what an automatic rifle or an assault rifle is.

[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

You can, they just cost like $10k-$50k (if you want one legally).

Otherwise, crime gonna crime.

[-] butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Lol yeah that's true. I'm just assuming they didn't mean that only eccentric rich people can get automatic assault rifles, whatever that contradiction in terms means.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

I definitely am not talking only about eccentric rich people, you are correct.

[-] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Modifying them is trivially easy, so any can be full auto, but burst fire is superior anyway. Full auto is only for psychological coolness.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not as easily as modifying a semi automatic.

[-] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago

French cops: using less lethals according to the manual.

'Merica cops: point blank, headshots (unless you're preggers), gas the kids

[-] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

If you think french cops follow the manual I have a bridge to sell you

[-] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

checks the Internet search engine

American police are significantly more lethal, with fatal shooting rates in 2019 being 22 times higher (3.1 per million) than in France (0.14 per million).

... ... I dunno, that feels like a pretty significant difference

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

They're all full of stories and excuses because none of them can figure out how to do anything beyond going out for a walk every couple months.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

It occurs to me, pregnant women who want abortions in states where it is illegal should just go to a protest…

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

I get what you're saying, but if you ask me, being murdered by a fascist is a rather drastic method of abortion..

[-] Bad@jlai.lu -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I have breathing issues due to being tear gassed too often, my left shoulder suffers from very painful tendinitis that will probably never go away due to being tossed on the ground / beat up, got an acquaintance who lost an eye to a rubber bullet, that's the life of a regular french demonstrator.

You are severely underestimating the violence of french anti-riot policing methods. Those weapons might sound chill due to being labeled "non-lethal", but they're actually quite lethal (people die regularly) and violate the Geneva protocol (tear gas usage is theoretically banned on civilians).

If you believe it's that relaxed, come demonstrate in France, see what it's like to be charged at by 100 dudes in full body armor swinging at you trying to do maximum damage while you're caught in a cloud of toxic gas with nowhere to run. You thought the press could cover your ass by filming the police violence, or that the government would do something about police brutality? Guess what, they target journalists too, and our govt encourages police brutality.

If you're looking for excuses, don't drag us into it. Protesting in France isn't an easy affair, we genuinely put our lives on the line every time we go out there. It's the police that decides how violent protests are, the reason you hear so much about french "riots" is because our police keeps escalating the violence. We have a peaceful nature.

Americans need to shut the fuck up about the rest of the world I swear. You're not that special. 

Rubber bullets banned in many countries, people lose eyes to them in France

Tear gas long term health effects

Casualties from the yellow vest protests

Police violence on journalists

This documentary's trailer should tell you enough about our riot police situation

[-] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 3 months ago

You're not special either. Plenty of people here going through the exact same shit you did yet nobody gives a shit and has to just keep piling on like idiots

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