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I get the sentiment but what bugs me about posts like this (and I’m guilty of making them), is that they assume a single vote is all it will take.
I typically vote democrat, not because I support them, but because I try to maximize the effectiveness of my vote. A third party or protest vote accomplishes nothing but self satisfaction. A painful vote for someone you know sucks, but is a step in the right direction is the right strategy. The dems, who without a doubt are terrible, at least showed that they will eventually listen to their voters when they swapped out biden’s carcass. I was not in love with Kamala, but at least we had a viable candidate who wasn’t an obvious fascist.
The vote is where the work STARTS. Electing dems is not the destination, they are just a tool to help us get where we need to go. Use them, then discard them.
Again, the only logical conclusion to this "pragmatic" utilitarianism is reaching a point where you're talking yourself into voting for dem candidate Ted Cruz as he runs against mecha Hitler. This philosophy is incompatible with being against genocide.
If Trump were a democrat, blueMAGA would be chiding leftists for not voting for him. If, in 20 years, the choice for president is between a democrat who wants to kill 6 million jews, and a republican who wants to kill 10 million jews, will you still be militantly democrat?
Is this really a point in your favor? How was that debacle anything other than a perfect illustration of how democrats will feign powerlessness, and then adjust course too late? If anything, the democrats can be characterized as too little, too late. They are dooming us to a fascist descent, and we have to make our own party.
Here's the thing. You take enough steps in the right direction, and eventually you are on the right path. It sure had hell beats standing still and letting some jackass drag you in the wrong direction. If you let that happen once, then you have to get back on your feet and starting waking in the right direction just to get back to where you were before.
People say that Democrats are just controlled opposition, and that's not true. Non-voters are the controlled opposition. Not advocating for themselves, not advocating for basic decency and accountability allows us all to be governed in an indecent and unaccountable way. They've been tricked into this by troll accounts saying "both sides are the same".
Agreed! 100%! So then why do you put your all your poltical stock in the party that does this exact blunder every 4 years?
Luckily, the ratchet effect is a mechanical analogy, and not actually relevant to politics.
Democrats managed to get a lot of rights recognized for LGBTQ people, despite heavy republican opposition. I'm old enough to remember hearing about the first federally recognized gay marriage, and the end of don't ask, don't tell.
Democrats managed to pass a healthcare plan (abeit a shitty one) despite heavy republicans opposition, and internal politicking by other "just barely" Democrats.
Democrats managed to balance the budget, despite heavy republican opposition.
The ratchet effect is a cute analogy, but it's not a real thing that is actually taking place. If you want the party to move further left, then you need to vote in primaries, and support further left candidates by talking about them, calling for them, and advocating for them. If your candidate wins, great, but if they don't, recognize that you need to prevent whatever christofascist shitbag Republicans are running from touching that office.
Democrats did a genocide. They don't give a fuck about human rights. Lgbt rights were fought for by lgbt people and their allies. Not democrats.
Any chance you wanna source those genocide claims?
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Gotcha, so no. Disregarded.
I would vote dem while condemning their actions if it meant an extra 2 million jews weren't killed. The reality is your argument is literally just the trolley problem and instead of focusing on an issue where either decision is bad and instead focus on everything else
So you dont have alarm bells going off in your head that you would willingly vote for a literal Holocaust?
Yes because voting is literally the bare minimum you do. We have first past the post, make sure the least shitty candidate is past the post AND then keep working to fix things, keep working to get better candidates in the next primary.
If Kamala Harris had been elected, we could be protesting for meaningful action in Gaza, meaningful climate action. Instead, those issues have become buried by all the tremendous waves of shit flying out of the republicans.
Yes, I would, but short of overthrowing the government which is highly dependent on both the material realities of the time and the amount willing to do so, it is objectively the better option
Then I dont think we have much more to discuss. You would vote for a literal Holocaust.
^ this is a dumb's person notion of winning an argument
^ this is a holocaust supporter's notion of winning an argument