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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago

I'm not aware of any country where there isn't enough work to go around. And last I checked, China doesn't have problems with homeless or unemployment. Socialism doesn't require people to work for the sake of work. In a socialist system, if it ever gets to the point where there's not enough work to go around the solution would be to reduce working hours.

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

China does have unemployment but it's rare that it results in homelessness due to how cheap it is to live there. There's also the fact that China has mandated plots of family land for every individual to prepare their own lodging on. I know a person that had their Hukou visa expire for a smaller regional city and they lived in a yurt in Inner Mongolia for a little while on their government mandated plot while they saved money to build a house on it. Not great, but it's a place they are legally allowed to do such a thing for no cost. Each plot also already has electric and water hookups. If you really wanted to you could just vegetate on a little plot like that somewhere and grow your own food

[-] dieICEdie@lemmy.org 0 points 2 hours ago

I think you should check again, seeing as China has unemployment issues. Something that is very well known and documented. Of course, that would mean you’d have to accept facts, and I think ML are incapable of that. Keep simping!

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's 5.1%

That's considered pretty good in most countries.

[-] dieICEdie@lemmy.org -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So you admit there is unemployment, how do you think other ML are going to react to that statement? Is there 5% homelessness too or are you too scared to talk about it now?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Anything between 4-6% is generally considered full employment by most countries, including the US. At that level the unemployment mostly consists of people between jobs, rather than people in long-term unemployment where they have no hope of finding work.

The homelessness number you're referencing is misleading. They're not unhoused, they're living outside of their registered address. A day laborer that moves from city to city and stays in group homes is considered "homeless" but they're not actually living on the street. Much of rural China has yet to be developed to a level that can sustain employment, so they have to migrate.

Not that you care.

[-] dieICEdie@lemmy.org -1 points 1 hour ago

You don’t know me. I care about humanity. I don’t care to simp for any government on earth. So, sounds like you’re the one who doesn’t care.

And so you agree having AI robots take over manual labor jobs is a good thing. And, this would lead to AI taking over non-manual labor jobs—which is a good thing, right? Because when no one has any work to do… you firmly believe the people in power will just provide utopia for all…. Right? You agree? AI is good, and to you love it?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Do you want to work for a wage for the rest of your life simply to survive? I certainly don't.

We have to be careful, because if the AI which automates our labor is owned privately then it will be used to eliminate our jobs and then eliminate the surplus population left behind. AI which is owned collectively, however, will liberate us from work.

We just have to get to that stage of collective ownership. China hasn't reached that stage of socialist development but they're closer than anyone else and seem to be progressing in that direction. Not that you care, you just want to pick fights.

[-] dieICEdie@lemmy.org 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Tell me, do you truly believe that the direction of the world right now is actually going towards utopia? You look around and you see this?

You’re a joke. You’re queer and you simp for a country who wouldn’t even let you marry. You’re a “communist” and you simp for a country with billionaires. You’re probably pro union, and you simp for AI taking over jobs. You probably love to quote facts and link to data, but you simp for a pipe dream AI utopia that is unlikely.

I’ll tag you so I remember to mock you if you ever make Luddite-like comments about AI. 💋

But hey, you got that fifty. Good job.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

... you're really proving my point. You don't care about anything I have to say or any of the facts or data that I quote or link to, you just want to pick and win fights.

It doesn't matter that I find the LLM bubble stupid and I don't think we're even close to AI replacing human labor, because I dared correct you about China. It doesn't matter that I think China isn't far enough along the path of socialist development for it to actually be a good thing when AI does replace human labor. It doesn't matter that my support for China has a lot of caveats and criticisms, some of which do surround queer rights. None of that nuance matters, nothing I say matters, and nothing I believe matters.

All that matters is that I'm in the way and that you need to tear me down so you can win the posting RPG.

There will be a point where it can take our jobs, though. The question is if the AI be privately or collectively owned. If its privately owned, we're fucked and we're all going to be turned into paperclips. If its collectively owned then we can decide which jobs are eliminated and the people who have had their jobs eliminated can help decide what they get to do next, now that they're free.

[-] dieICEdie@lemmy.org 1 points 21 minutes ago

You’re right. I have won this stupid internet contest. You didn’t correct me about China, you agreed with me. You confirmed there is unemployment in China—which contradicts your comrade. And since 5.1% isn’t a “big deal” then you agree that the US has no unemployment problems. Which is hilarious!! 🤡

And you’re right, nothing you say matters. Nothing you believe matters. All that matters is what the Chinese Capitalist Party tells you to believe. The hive. You’re as brainwashed as every other American.

Keep on playing the victim sweetie, I have a feeling you’ve been playing that card your whole life.

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