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[-] starik@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

What ICE is doing right now is just a small taste of what some men will do when they think there will be no accountability. You don’t really want society to return to a state of nature.

[-] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

what some men will do when they think there will be no accountability

This proves my point. The police are already not accountable. Just look at "qualified immunity", and their protections are written into the law.

Anarchy doesn't mean no accountability. It means no gods and no masters.

https://anarchymag.org/2015/08/for-the-abolition-of-police/

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/strangers-in-a-tangled-wilderness-life-without-law

...But in reality, the people in this world who act with total freedom and no responsibility are those so privileged in our society so as to be above reproach, such as the police and the ultra rich. Most of the rest of us understand that in order to be free we must hold ourselves accountable to those we care about and those our actions might impede upon: our communities and families and friends.

An anarchist is one who, choosing, accepts the responsibility of choice.

Ursula K. Le Guin, 1974

[-] starik@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

The police are already not accountable.

This is just obviously not true. The police get away with committing crimes sometimes, but it isn’t unlimited unaccountability like it would be in a stateless society. Even ICE, with their supposed “immunity”, aren’t roving minority neighborhoods lynching every brown person they can catch. That’s what a lot of them would like to do, and would do, if childish anarchists got their wish.

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

There's not unlimited unaccountability in a stateless society. Did you even read the comment you replied to? If you're gonna proselytize from your liberal high horse, at least read some theory so you can form a coherent argument

[-] starik@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago

You caught me. I didn’t read your pamphlets.

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Are you genuinely ignorant of the fact that anarchist theory exists? Zines and essays are great, and you should read some, but there're plenty of books too. Bakunin, Kropotkin, Bookchin... Anarchism isn't inherently childish- you just have a childish view of it

[-] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ignore the troll, they don't even read usernames. They think we're the same person.

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