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[-] thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 months ago

Sodium ion batteries have less energy density as opposed to Lithium ion (100-150 WH per Kg instead of 150-250). I'm curious how much these "wet" batteries improve that. The article doesn't say.

Nonetheless, even if it's not the new battery for your car, it could be useful as energy storage for the grid, storing green (solar) energy for the night, and desalinating seawater at the same time.

[-] chocrates@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago

We hear about a new battery chemistry like every week. Do most never get to commercialization?

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

R&d on these I'm guessing takes a little while. And it greatly depends on what niche they fill. Like the poster above said these might have lower density. For applications that move, that's not usually good. How sensitive are they to hot and cold? That could necessitate thermal management.

[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They mostly these articles are showing new avenues for research. Most are deadends usually due to issues with production/scalability.

Sodium Ions batteries are coming to market, however the issue is that Lithium Ion are just improving faster and making it harder for Sodium Ion batteries to compete.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Unless other situations where the established technology wins due to inertia, sodium ion batteries have two benefits that make them interesting regardless:

Firstly, they are safer. A punctured sodium ion battery doesn't catch fire, which massively simplifies safety design. That makes them very attractive for certain scenarios, especially ones where density is a secondary concern. That in turn means they get further development money instead of withering on the vine.

Secondly, they require fewer hard-to-obtain materials, which makes them attractive from a strategic perspective. This one should be less important than the safety factor but it's also relevant.

I'm pretty sure we'll actually see wet sodium cells in the wild if they are actually practical. Sodium ion tech is already being commercialized and if this brings it within the same ballpark as lithium ion then it becomes a very interesting choice for vehicles due to instant crash safety gains.

[-] 0tan0d@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They also perform better in the cold making them a better choice for EVs in cold regions. This is why I think CATL saw the videos of cars getting killed by cold and pulled the trigger on retooling even with the lithium price crash.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Not to mention from a human rights perspective, it's not just easier to obtain sodium than lithium but also more humane.

There is an industry for ethically-sourced materials, and even if this doesn't completely replace lithium it can still significantly reduce the amount needed to meet demand, which can also encourage more ethical practices in that supply chain too, such as sourcing it from areas with stronger labor laws.

[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the strategy of retaining crystal interlayer water yielded a specific capacity of 280 mA h g−1 at 10 mA g−1, one of the highest capacities reported for SIB cathodes in literature.

All I could find. This isn't a statement about capacity(?) Units are wrong(?)

Its worth noting how preliminary this research is. Currently these "batteries" are just jars with chemicals.

https://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2025/TA/D5TA05128B

https://www.rsc.org/suppdata/d5/ta/d5ta05128b/d5ta05128b2.mp4

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

My very uneducated understanding is that sodium batteries can be produced virtually anywhere.

Not every battery application needs to maximize energy density, so sodium batteries are good where that is the case.

I also did not read about sodium ion batteries characteristics versus lithium ion, so there might also be other use cases where sodium ion batteries are better.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No thermal runaway if I remember correct as those are not prone to exploding (unlike li-ion/li-po)

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