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[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TNT has 1162 Wh/kg ratio.

These new lithium-ion batteries get to 300-400Wh/kg range.

We are hitting the limit what is doable with energy density. Do you really want to carry 100g of TNT in your pocket or few tons of TNT in vehicle going 100km/h.

Of course things are not directly comparable, but ball parks.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

TNT has 1162 Wh/kg ratio.

How do you recharge TNT?

We are hitting the limit what is doable with energy density.

I mean, we're definitely running into a problem of how you build a battery without also building a bomb. But the entire point of TNT is rapid thermal expansion. The point of a battery is very low voltage steady release of electrical charge.

I might also note that C4 has around 6 Mwh/kg. A bit of applied chemistry can go a long way to improving energy efficiency. And that's before you take advantage of geometry to focus pressure, via a shaped charge.

Point being, there's a lot of clever ways to juice a lemon. We're a long way from the end of the road on battery improvement.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah but firewood is like 5 kwh/kg, or 4 times the energy density of TNT. We drive around with wood in our cars all the time.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

i’d say stability is more important than energy density

like gasoline has more than 10x the energy density than tnt and we’re perfectly fine with many kg of that on a vehicle going 100km/h

a fully fueled vehicle is the equivalent of ~600kg of TNT, but it’s very stable whilst TNT is not

[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

That is true, but my small EV the batteries are 500kg, same car with combustion engine only has 40L fuel tank.

Stability is important, but lithium-ion ain't really that stable either. Still waiting some solid state to get made.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, lithium ion is a good stopgap while we develop better options, but it's by no means stable. Get them too hot or puncture a cell and you're going to have a bad time.

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