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this post was submitted on 04 Mar 2026
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In my experience trying a rational conversation will not help. You are assuming she is acting from a rational place.
She wants you to clock out and finish the assignments off the clock. She will never say this. And may not even be willing to admit this to herself.
Or she just wants an excuse to be angry. She knows these are ridiculous and knows they will result in her anger but she likes that feeling.
As someone said, her boss would be the only option if you want to stay at the job - hoping that they also have problems with her and would be willing to step in.
This is a wild perspective that is probably true in cases of smaller companies or instructions directly from poor ownership and inexperienced managers.
Managers that allow or encourage people to work off the clock in most cases are putting themselves at risk. God forbid somebody get injured or contact the department of labor. Great way to lose your job.
Sounds to me like she's been given an order to cut overtime, which is going around at so many companies recently, and she's probably stressed because the situations that OP describe make that very difficult.
Makes sense that she was going through picking jobs and cancelling them while trying to find something that would fit the reduced timeframe. Ultimately sounds like that wasn't possible. Unfortunately it also sounds like she is unable to effectively communicate this to her leadership or has already tried and been dismissed.
OP, I'd recommend trying to express to her that you understand she is trying to abide by the directives given to her, share with her that you are also, and see if you guys can work out a better plan. Maybe encourage her to share the issue with leadership if she hasn't already. Might be smarter to not assign any jobs post 16:30 and just eat that half an hour if the people above her aren't looking. Maybe less gets done, but then she's not getting in trouble for OT. Unless she's the owner, safe bet that her emotions stem from the emotions above her or fear of repercussions to her own employment. That or she is just inexperienced and hasn't yet learned what all middle managers eventually do, it's somebody else's money