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iPhone and iPad approved to handle classified NATO information (www.apple.com)
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[-] Casterial@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I gotta give it to Apple, they refused the FBI requests to create "backdoor" access. I feel Google would just bend the knee

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

That we know of. Apple doesn't exactly have a clean track record of avoiding double speak.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Apple has created espionage devices before. Remember the iPod incident?

[-] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's because they already work with NSA, the FBI is way too basic for their level ¯\(ツ)/¯

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

I gotta give it to Apple, they refused the FBI requests to create “backdoor” access.

How do you know?

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

They don't, but the FBI has recently been strangely public about not being able to break lockdown mode,

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thats just the price i feel. These stories always ends with they got acces and no longer need apple.

The product is a “definitely not an apple employee” “hacker” who shows up at your door with how to break in.

The cost price is making sure the media tells everyone about how apple isn’t willing to play ball while i am pretty sure us has a law to force them to play ball just like all the dictatorships.

Somewhat funny i actually realized this dynamic when watching star trek. Whenever they need to do something illegal they simply put their badges on the desk and just like magic they are no longer bound by federation ethics.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Another fun one is ex-Intelligence agents leaving government work to go into the private sector and create unconstitutional spying powers and obtain information which would be illegal for the government to obtain, which they then sell to the government.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Somewhat funny i actually realized this dynamic when watching star trek. Whenever they need to do something illegal they simply put their badges on the desk and just like magic they are no longer bound by federation ethics.

That's the main reason I don't like the "good people in uniform as beacons of virtue" trope. That always happens. Every time I see that on screen I immediately imagine the morally inverted version of the same plot.

At least in Babylon-V such a decision is something not reversible and important for the main characters.

And in SG-1, despite that being sort of a piece of military propaganda, that too doesn't happen too easily.

But there the main characters are not some beacons of anything, they are just people with their own way.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Apple plays the long game. They know the regime is temporary. The marketing stat bonus they will get for defying trumps regime will get them much more than selling out to him now. They will outlast him.

Their motives aren’t pure but they are compatible with capitalism and pig fuckery at the same time here.

[-] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't they bend the knee for China?

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sort of.

In 2017 China passed a law requiring Chinese user data to be held within the country: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-privacy-censorship.html

Following that, Apple paid for a local data center which is managed by a Chinese company. Functionally this means that the PRC has access to all of the data stored there, because the government exerts direct control over Chinese companies, especially anything related to data collection and storage. Most likely, the PRC is able to access Apple users' iCloud data if it resides in the China-based data center.

In response to a 2017 Chinese law, Apple agreed to move its Chinese customers’ data to China and onto computers owned and run by a Chinese state-owned company.

Chinese government workers physically control and operate the data center. Apple agreed to store the digital keys that unlock its Chinese customers’ information in those data centers. And Apple abandoned the encryption technology it uses in other data centers after China wouldn’t allow it.

Independent security experts and Apple engineers said Apple’s concessions would make it nearly impossible for the company to stop Chinese authorities from gaining access to the emails, photos, contacts, calendars and location data of Apple’s Chinese customers.

This is not really different from what's been happening with other countries requiring their citizens' data to be held within their borders, and the UK has similarly forced Apple to withdraw the Advanced Data Protection for iCloud users: https://www.theverge.com/news/608145/apple-uk-icloud-encrypted-backups-spying-snoopers-charter

[...] British security services would have access to the backups of any user worldwide, not just Brits, and Apple would not be permitted to alert users that their encryption was compromised.

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