67
Steam Support :: About the New York Attorney General lawsuit against Valve
(help.steampowered.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2026
67 points (93.5% liked)
PC Gaming
14250 readers
475 users here now
For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki
Rules:
- Be Respectful.
- No Spam or Porn.
- No Advertising.
- No Memes.
- No Tech Support.
- No questions about buying/building computers.
- No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
- No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
- No off-topic posts/comments, within reason.
- Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
The games aren't marketed at children and I'm sorry but even though now that I understand the scope of how the loot boxes in these games work, I don't think it's really a good idea to lable this child gambling. If a kid is playing a game rated M, that's not the fault of the company who sold it, it's the fault of the parents who didn't supervise their kids.
This is absolutely just a push for ID verification and the "think of the children" slant it's using is disingenuous.
I want loot boxes to be outlawed (if they can be redeemed for monetary value), but this is just straight up authoritarian and extremely invasive.
Valve games literally target mostly the 13-18 age range...
Also do you have any fucking idea what the M rating means...? M RATING IS STILL MINORS.
It's 17 and up, 17 IS A MINOR.
The ONLY rating that's for adults is AO or adult only 18+. Real world gambling is literally only legally allowed in AO games.
If valve wants to have gambling then their games should be AO. Which then carries a legal requirement of age verification already and has for decades.
If you have gambling in a m rated game that involves real money you have underaged gambling. It's literally cut and dry
I feel like you reacted to part of what I wrote without reading the whole thing.
I'm also going to point out that I've been carded while buying a game rated M on more than one occasion.
So. Regardless of what the ratings mean, in practice, there's a lot of things that go into how people perceived them.
How does Steam or Valve market these games to children exactly? In order for me to buy Halflife 2 on disc I literally had to show ID.
My older brother had to buy the first game because I was too young. My parents knew about and did not care about the ratings. My father in particular played the games with us.
While these are the only two Valve titles I've played and they aren't online competitive games, I really would love to hear why you think the games are marketed to kids.