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[-] db2@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Many people can get the same results by talking to a plastic duck or doing nothing at all. It works for some people, the rest of us consider it a pseudoscience at best.

Edit: That comes off harsh, I'm not taking shots at anyone who it works for or who helps others with it.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago

Then don't think about it as a science, but as getting help from someone trained to help you. As an example, do you need firefighters to be scientists to get help from them when your house is burning?

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Kind of yeah, air currents are basically fluid dynamics.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

Doesn't mean your firefighter is a scientist, which was my point.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Weird thing to say, but, therapy is not a pseudoscience.

[-] Cubes@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I have gone through some trauma therapy that has helped where no talk therapy has been able to. There are lots of studies showing the effectiveness too. Look up EMDR or brain spotting.

I really just have to push back on the "doing nothing at all" or "talking to a rubber duck" piece because I'd been trying that for years and trauma flashbacks don't seem just go away on their own.

[-] Mowcherie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Brainspotting has been lifechanging for me. Took me decades to find it though.

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

So it works for you and that's okay. That's why I made the edit.

[-] Cubes@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I still somewhat take issue with that characterization though. It doesn't just "work for me and that's okay," it works period. It has been clinically shown to work for other people too. I only say this because spreading misinformation about it being "pseudoscience" and ineffective only serves to continue some people's pain and never find an effective treatment for them, and I believe that's potentially dangerous.

[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Buddy, I'm not telling you it doesn't work for you. But you have no problem whatsoever dictating to me that it works for me which it absolutely does not in any way. It's a waste of my time and energy that yields nothing of value at all.

You might want to do some of that introspection on this issue you seem to have. Or talk to your therapist about it if it works for you.

[-] Cubes@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Buddy, I'm not telling you it will work for you. I'm talking about on the whole we have scientific evidence to prove that it is effective. I'm literally only responding to your claim that "therapy is pseudoscience." No need to get so defensive.

[-] 601error@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago

I know the evidence says that therapy works in general, but yeah, it’s difficult to believe. And to be honest, I’d rather take a pill than talk to a therapist, all else being equal.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

Well, I can only advise to at least try it.

[-] Mowcherie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And keep trying until you find the right therapist/therapy that works for you. There is huge variation in quality and effectiveness.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not only quality but different therapists belong to different "branches" and every branch has its strengths and weaknesses when dealing with specific problems. A good therapist should recommend going to someone of different branch if they feel it would be better for you.

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