These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.
They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.
I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.
As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:
Is it worth it?
I have the answer, I know you know it as well:
No its not
I used to think otherwise
I was a fool
its not worth a few laughs
even if you dunk all you want, that doesn't take away the knife those people put in our backs.
These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don't make any room for them offline, why should we not online?
And really
How many essays have your written?
How many sources have you combed through?
How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?
How many attempts at good faith?
Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don't read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.
For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the "good faith one" just reverts back to their old shit.
Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?
I don't believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.
Is posting a meme to "own the liberals" worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?
No its not.
you've had your laugh, but it should end
Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.
Defederate from those communities. We shouldn't sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren't reddit. We came here to get away from that. I'm sick of this. We are sick of this.
End it now
I relate to this so much. The number of well-cited responses and long explanations I've posted and not a single person going "sorry, I'm wrong" or even engaging with the sources provided in a meaningful way. I used to be pro-full federation, but genuinely I think shitjustworks has been the final straw. These are some of the most ignorant people we've been forced to deal with since opening up. Absolutely keep Lemmygrad, then shitjustworks needs to go first and foremost (not the least of which for the fact that they endorse blatant racism) and SJW, and then we need to reassess how federation was carried out (Chapo.chat might be a good alternative as @a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net said).
I didn't expect sh.itjust.works to be this bad, but they seriously have been the worst instance. I voted against federating because of the racist Xi picture, and turns out that place is full of people who are ready to splain why that picture isn't in fact racist.
Well, ACTUALLY, did you know that Xinnie the Pooh is a stale meme from Hong Kong social media that dates back to Obama's first term? That makes it okay to make teh lulz maymays of ~~bad~~ funny yellow ~~man~~ bear.
And Obama was "tigger" in that meme, I wonder why...
John Oliver told us it was okay so it can't be racist
I've seen you absolutely toss people, but its sad to see them just not read anything written
I've seen a few people change their minds, and more than that say they were already sympathetic and now have accounts here, or post here from other instances. much like the old sub, being a boogeyman is how we grow. But things right now are a getting out of hand. I think defining some of our comms as local-only may help.
To be honest, I've lost count of the number of people I've seen from other instances go "sorry, I'm wrong". Sure, there are plenty of stubborn nerds too, but I can definitively say that those essays and sources and facts do and have changed some peoples' minds.
We’ve had diff experiences then