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An EXTREMELY Simple Guide to Mastodon (for when someone says it's too complicated to catch on)
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A community dedicated to fediverse news and discussion.
Fediverse is a portmanteau of "federation" and "universe".
Getting started on Fediverse;
Subscribe to hashtags that interest you, them based on the posts that come up through that follow users that seem to have related interests.
hi,
The problem with hash tag-following is that it some on the messages that enter the instance in some way (either local or from the federation). This works great on big Instances and on specialised instances. However, on smaller less-special instances (like personal instances or -say-an instance for a mid-sized city with 50 members) ... it works much less.
But that is then where grup.pe and following public instances of remote instances comes in.
Kr.
Hello!
Hard to make sense of what you're saying here, but hashtags definitely work across instances.
Sincerely,
Hi Hugh,
To be clear. This is not about the tags itself. It's about the system of tag-following and how it is implemented on the fediverse. It is due to how the fediverse (acitivtypub) works and how (or why) messages are routed from one instance to another.
There is a major different on how following (people) and how tag-following work. (perhaps the simularity in name is not such a good choice)
The basic idea of following (people) is this: Consider that you are me are on a different instances and I want to follow you; so I hit the "follow" buttom.
What actually happens is this:
So far, so good. I am happy to read your (very interesting) posts, and you are happy as your messages gets forwarded to a lot of people who think you are an awsome guy!
Tag-following however is based on a very different system.
you do a tag-follow request. What this does is that this tells your local instance that you are interested in all messages that contain the tag (say) "#caterday"
What this will do is this: If (in any way) a message enters your instance and that message contains the tag "caterday", your instance will drop a copy of that message in your inbox steam, .. which results in another post with a nice cat-image in your personal stream. Yeah!
What this does NOT do: Unlike the "following-people" system, tag-following is purely local thing. ("local" means "on your own instance"). So, what does NOT happen is that that your instance has started sending messages to all instances out there on the fedivere saying "hey .. here is somebody who is interested in cats .. please send me all these posts".
The main point here is that tag-following is only local between you and your own instance. Not more than then.
In essence, .. the important thing here is the first part of my message above: "If (in any way) a message enters your instance, and that message containts the tag ..."
So, then the question is: "what are the mechanisms so that a post enters an instance? (and -hence- be subject to tag-following)" This could happen in two ways:
So, to put things together, Consider we are on different instances, I write a post with the #caterday tag, .. but neither you or anybody else on your instance follows me, .. the video of my cat attacking a ball of cotton will NOT reach you. (bad luck for you ... you should have followed me :-p )
Does this mean that tag-following is useless? No, not at all.
When does tag-following work very well? To give a practicle example. I have an account on mastodon.radio (an specialised instance for amateur-radio) and overthere I do tag-following of #electronics.
That works very well because
When does tag-following not work well?
What can you do if you are in the 2nd senario?
If there exists an instance dedicated to your interest (that still accepts people)
get an account on that instance and use a multi-account app like fedilab
use an app like fedilab to remote-read the public feed of that instance, find interesting people, follow them with your current fediverse account you already have, and build up your list of interesting people to follow that way.
switch to lemmy or kbin :-) (as lemmy and kbin are by nature more community-based)
follow the lemmy/kbin community from within your mastodon/fediverse account.
If you happen to be interested in something very specific and the other nerds are all spread out over a zillion different fediverse instances out there:
A nice exercise to get a good feeling about this is to get both an account on a mid-side instance and set up your own personal instance. The different in how to approach the fediverse become apparent quite fast.
Hope this helps :-)