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Dylan M. Taylor is not a household name in the Linux world. At least, he wasn’t until recently.

The software engineer and longtime open source contributor has quietly built a respectable track record over the years: writing Python code for the Arch Linux installer, maintaining packages for NixOS, and contributing CI/CD pipelines to various FOSS projects.

But a recent change he made to systemd has pushed him into the spotlight, along with a wave of intense debate.

At the center of the controversy is a seemingly simple addition Dylan made: an optional birthDate field in systemd’s user database.

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl -4 points 1 day ago

Woah, fuck this guy. He admitted the change was for the purpose of complying with these laws

[-] fruitcantfly@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago

What do you mean, he “admitted” that?

It’s quite literally the first thing he wrote in his pull request to systemd:

Stores the user's birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc.

And the second paragraph of his pull request to arch:

Recent age verification laws in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc. require platforms to verify user age. Collecting birth date at install time ensures Arch Linux is compliant with these regulations.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl -3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I didn't think he was being ap transparent that he was doing something evil

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's a fucking field. Why is everyone loosing his mind over it? It's not like it is required, nor will it prevent you to do anything if you put data in (except not being able to change it later).

If you have to complain, complain about the law, not poor guy that has to add it, by law.

[-] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago

A single law pushed through in a single state in a single country should not lead to systemic changes in FOSS projects used worldwide.

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

That field is here to allow the support of it, not to make it required everywhere.

Seatbelts isn't required everywhere, but car maker won't make two version of a car, one that support seatbelts, and one that doesn't. They will make one model, with the required attach points to install a seatbelt, and install an actual seatbelt only on cars that goes somewhere where it is mandatory.

Here we are in a similar situation. That filed is here to make of possible for OS to support that law, but it doesn't mean we'll all have to conform to that law unless you live in a country that have said law.

[-] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago

The largest state in the union that has a GDP larger than many countries.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl -1 points 1 day ago

No. Don't follow unjust laws.

Especially Foss projects which don't have to follow laws, because they are outside their jurisdiction

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Open-sourcing a software doesn't make it magically immune to laws.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl -5 points 23 hours ago

Of course it does. Do you know how laws work?

Who broke the law if the owner is everyone?

[-] Dremor@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

An open source software is, by law, the maintainer's (which can be an individual, or a group of persons) property. It is said maintainer who has the right to grant you any kind of license over what he owns.

In the case of an open-source project, that license is very permissive, true, but if you take the time to read any of those, you will always see :

  • A provision indicating that the owners grants that licence within the limits of the applicable laws
  • Sometimes a provision indicating under which juridiction said license is granted. If not, the user local laws are the ones used.

Source : the fucking law and the fucking licenses. And my friend, which happens to be a lawyer specialized in intellectual property laws.

this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2026
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