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So what's the user experience like on an alternative OS?
Daily-driving SFOS for 6 years. AMA.
Do you use mostly Android apps?
I heard that the native browser is still some ancient Firefox fork. There is surprisingly little information about native apps anywhere, it strongly feels like they are mostly focusing on Android app compatibility. SailfishOS also has more closed source than I'd like to. Most often it does not end well.
I preordered the new Jolla phone, but after looking around the app side of things for a while, I cancelled. I'm not switching from Android to "sort of Android" -phone. If (or rather when, as I think it will happen) Google kills F-Droid and other ways to get apps, I will take another look on what's available. Ubuntu Touch maybe, but I understand their browser is also quite old, and that's one thing that should be up to date, at least, in my opinion. Or maybe just a dumb phone, and a separate camera. For maps, maybe a "prices-begin-from" Wahoo for finding routes. Sure, this approach will cost more, take more space, but I'm not going to go into the walled garden of Google or Apple.
About Jolla and SailfishOS, I am no expert. I ended up cancelling knowing that if I change my mind I will have to pay a lot of extra. Anyway, for the moment I am happy with my decision.
No.
None of those is Android (but not all are actual "apps").
I wouldn't say ancient; it's based on FF ESR98 or so's embedlite. But yeah, this is a topic of much discontent. Natively, it's relatively easy to install Angelfish (KDE) based on a much more timely webkit. Via Android appsupport many current browsers are available.
It's one of their main selling points, but native apps are definitely abundant. There's the offical store, which does not have a browsable web frontend, and 2 unofficial stores: https://openrepos.net/ and https://sailfishos-chum.github.io/.
I understand, but it has been going well since 2013. IMO the closed source thing is historical: they are the heirs of Nokia's Linux-based OSs. But slowly they are opensourcing parts of the OS.
Ultimately, this is a European company I can trust. The devs are active on the forum, too.
BTW, it is still and always will be possible to download & install SFOS on your own device, for €0.
Don't have a question, but I feel I might be joining you, no matter how janky it is.
Their website has this dishonnest “99€” for their flagship
It’s a trap, you need read the fine print to find out
I wouldn't go quite that far. It says "Sep 26" on the first page - which already points to some sort of preorder - and when you click on it you are immediately told in the sidebar that the full payment is 649€.
But I agree, they could've done it better.
Graphene has been great for me.
Yeah but what's it like?
Its like using Android.
Oh, neat!
Can you use the play store? Can you install apks from github? Can you use launchers?
Yes.
Can you use banking apps, Google wallet, Google pay (or other NFC payments)?
I could use banking apps yes, there is a resource on the grapheneOS forums.
Wallet, pay are not working, iirc. Don't use graphene anymore since i don't have a pixel anymore
Cool, thanks
The only thing that was not working as well for me was GPS, but that was probably my own fault, i maybe misconfigured something.
You have to configure gps?
No, but it might not be as good as one might expect out of the box. In most implementations of gps, location accuracy and latency is helped with additional methods, like your phone using its distance to various cell towers to figure out where it is. Features like this can come with privacy issues, which for Graphene is a higher priority issue than slightly worse navigation. You can of course go into location settings and enable all that, just make sure to read the added disclaimers as they go into more detail.
Thanks for the explanation!