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I imagine like other laws that threaten warnings, fines and such for parents who let their kids do this or that.
No ID submission, def fuck that. If there's an electronic component it has to be gov't-run and it has to just divulge whether the user is allowed to use that service. Not share age, or other info.
But again, ideally I want a law that tells parents to not let children on social media. That would be enough to mitigate the vast majority of the damage. It would let rebels (parents or kids) do it anyway if they're smart enough to not get caught, while keeping the 80% away from it.
LOL!
It has been known for a long time that social media is harmful for kids. If parents wouldn't parent properly for the good of their children before, then a toothless law (there would be no way to know children are using the sites) won't make them parent now.
How would sites know there are children using the services? How would the authorities know to issue fines? The only way these things happen is with some form of ID system.
Yes I'm looking for essentially a half-toothless law with punishment "if reported" like it is for the laws against leaving your child alone. Someone has to report you. If you're not reported, you aren't punished. Yet everyone I know complies with very few occasional exceptions, even if all of them think it's a stupid law. Even half-toothless laws can change the overall situation. All I need is the majority of her peers to have been forbidden social media. I can do the rest. If everyone she knows is on social... it's my word against the world and while I might be able to pull off argument that sticks, it'll be difficult.
Completely agree. I just think an attempt to regulate the corpos would result in mandate for age verification by the corpos collecting IDs. There are obviously smarter ways to do such regulation, I just don't think a Liberal or Consrrvative gov't would go for such solution. That's why I'd be okay with shifting responsibility. It's not what I'd like but I'd tolerate it and it'll do the job I think.
Who goes to prison now when a kid is found to be using social media?
And now what counts as social media? Is it only Facebook, or does it include things like WhatsApp, Mastodon, Instagram, Bluesky, Lemmy, a blog or chatroom?
You don't have to false dichotomy it. There's other options than prison. The gov't determines what's social media. There can be diff criteria. The determination can be made by a regulatory body similar to the CRTC that updates what counts as social media now and then.
No, they are not capable of that. Using the CRTC as an example only exemplifies that.
Is Steam social media? IRC? Github? Kernel.org? This push for age verification is Red White And Blue, USA, red blooded republican agenda and should not be leaking into the rest of civilization. It is another step forward in the war on general computing.
What do you mean they're not capable?
The Canadian government is absolutely inept in the area of technology. It allows a duopoly to own telecommunications, we have the highest bandwidth fees in all of the western world, service websites have fucking monday to friday hours!?!
They are literally not equipped to make decisions about technology.
I understand. I think our oligopoly situation and its regulatory capture has nothing to do with our gov't ability to create classification of services. It's a systemic failure of a different nature that's definitely pretty horrible. No point trying to convince me otherwise but I do understand your view.
BTW, I do agree that the private corpo age verification bullshit comes from American corporate interests. Which is one of the reasons I DO NOT want age verification in Canada.