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With exceptions in cases like when a couple loses a child

Edit: in a scenario where everything is good. No wars, no famine.

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[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago
[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Forcing women to terminate pregnancies is as cruel as forcing them to be inseminated.

What's your point with this question?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

That was already performed in China.
Kids were born outside of hospitals and either were ghost people without proper paperworl or registered as children of other family members like the sister.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

Omg, that's awful

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah and it's cruel. I'm still curious what OP was thinking when posing this question to the community.

There's no answer here that isn't a disgusting look at how women and fertility and birth is treated.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 0 points 2 days ago

I'm still curious what OP was thinking when posing this question to the community.

Its not a forbidden question. Nothing about my post said I support it. Should I explain to you why people ask questions? Are we simply not supposed to ask controversial questions on Lemmy?

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

I said I was curious, not that it’s forbidden.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

If you were actually curious as to why I asked, I was just wondering, nothing more deep. I'm sorry.

It's just too many people get 'curious' as to why you're asking the question in the first place when you ask a slightly controversial question. I got 2 of these for this post alone.

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

This question is looking specifically at controlling women so yes people are going to react negatively.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 0 points 2 days ago

The question looks at finding an answer for controlling population increase. Nothing was 'specifically' said about women. If it affects women more, I didn't think of that

Besides, there are other means for controlling population such as crushing men's testicles which is also pretty bad but doesn't control women.

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Women are the ones being either forced to birth two children or forced to abort to stay at two children.

That you didn’t even think about how a policy around number of children allowed affects women is astounding.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

That you didn’t even think about how a policy around number of children allowed affects women is astounding

If you neuter men, it really doesn't. It's not that astounding

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

How’re you getting two children per couple?

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago
[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Alternatively, it’s just as cruel to control men’s bodies and force vasectomies.

It’s just a terrible question, dude. Not forbidden, but yeah, not a lovely thought to entertain.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

Annnnd I said it wasn't. Didn't I? Didn't support it.

The point of this is, I'm not trying to control women just because I asked a question about the two child policy. Didn't support it, just asked an opinion. How come you're sooooo intent on twisting my words and finding Ill in everything I say?

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

I just find the question distasteful. I didn’t say you’re trying to control women, the question is fundamentally about controlling women.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

Why?

Didn't we just argue about neutering men?

If it's about controlling anyone, it's about controlling everyone. Which means it's not about controlling women. Stop using that sentence like a buzzword. That's pretty disgusting.

And btw, a question can have multiple answers. You ask questions because you don't know some answers. If there was an answer to this question other than those I know, I might learn it by asking here. It can trigger discussions from which I might learn more on the topic. It is possible that there is an answer which is actually good and I don't know about it. THAT'S why you ask questions.

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Those two children are still coming from mothers being forced to birth them.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

I said in another comment that I meant as an upper limit.

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

And I said in another comment that it is similarly cruel to force vasectomies and control men’s bodies.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

I also replied that it was not the point. The point is you're accusing the question of being about controlling women. Which it isn't. Why do you keep forgetting things we already discussed and going back to it?

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What's your point with this question?

I wanted to know what people think and what could be the pros and cons etc. That's why people ask questions, don't they?

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

There’s no pros to controlling women’s autonomy and bodies.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

I never said that. Why're you soo intent on putting words into my mouth?

Population could also be controlled by neutering men.

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Not when it is a two child policy - women still birth those children.

Fundamentally this is a question centered around controlling women’s bodies because it’s women that bear and birth children.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

And men still produce sperm. If we neuter them after 2 children we can still do it. Not that I like that. Just saying there is something else

[-] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Still forcing women to birth two children each.

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I notice that you have replied to my other comment. You must know I meant that as an upper limit. Is there a reason you need to pretend you didn't read it?

[-] Karl@literature.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

Read my other comment. I think I should have specified that in the post.

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