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[-] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I could Google this. But I'm just curious what ya think...

What do you think the population of China is?

What do you think the population of Germany is?

Are those numbers not many orders of magnitude different?

Talking shit? Free rides?

What's the population of America?

And the funny thing about America - if you consider just them and ignore everybody else on the planet - just America's emissions are not sustainable. And that's only a few hundred million people. Not billions.

The thing about China, though. They're leading the world in renewables. And if you had any sense then you'd realize renewables typically only work optimally occasionally. Things like wind power only work when there's wind. Solar when there's sun. Whereas coal/oil/gas you can burn 24/7/365 until there's no more dinosaur corpses or ancient forests left to burn.

Sure, China is currently the largest annual emitter of CO₂. That’s mainly because it’s the world’s manufacturing base plus a massive ongoing infrastructure and energy expansion. But per person, the U.S. is still higher! Americans emit significantly more CO₂ per capita than Chinese citizens.

Fossil fuels are still used for dispatchability in many places(China), but batteries, grid interconnects, and demand-shifting are changing that equation fast.

You ignore history. The USA - cumulatively - has produced a lot more pollution than China - cumulatively.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

hey already responded about population here

https://aussie.zone/post/31299070/22304750

also india has a bigger population than china, you can compare co2 emissions

[-] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

India is fantastic in that regard.

They are below the global average.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

In population? I think you'll find they're number 1, they have nearly 1.5 BILLION people

Absurd

[-] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Emissions/population

Not so absurd then. Better than USA or China.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

If their emissions start trending downwards then yes, fantastic, if they continue as they currently are blasting off like a rocket and overtaking the USA and EU by the end of 2030 then no, awful, garbage

[-] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's kind of like someone farted in a room and no one wants to fess up and everyone's pointing a finger at one another ... But to be honest they all just shit them pants simultaneously.

Happy happy joy joy

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

For me it's like all the western nations have reduced the amount of farting they do because the oxygen in the room is rapidly depleting while China/India massively increase the amount of farting they do not giving a shit

China especially egregiously building 500 coal power plants, planning to fart louder and harder than 99% of the room and then expecting no one to say anything

[-] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Have you not seen a population density map? It's amazing...? almost every problem in the world!? If you just put a population density map ... bam it's like the same thing.

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