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However, we don't have a "hardened security" approach, we aren't developing a phone for pedo(censored) so they can evade justice.

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[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 weeks ago

Google is the exact opposite of privacy and security.

I find it very dishonest that GrapheneOS was advertising itself as the secure option while tying itself so closely to Google.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

The Pixel phones were the only devices with secure enough hardware to make GrapheneOS viable, that's why they developed it for them.

It wasn't because of some deal with google or anything like that.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Hardware security guarantees are irrelevant for most people, including myself. A very small segment of the popularion needs them.

What matters infinitely more is who has access to your data. And Google is one of the worst offenders.

[-] Lemmert@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't really see the issue. So you don't really care about robust and trustworthy hardware. That I get to some extent considering you're more worried about your data itself. But if you're flashing your device with GOS, there is no data being shared to Google unless you specifically want to use Google Play Services or the Play Store. Both of which don't come pre-installed

Edit: I added the if

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Robust and trustworthy hardware does not matter if the apps you need for daily life (like banking or public transportation) are so integrated with Google's ecosystem that they leak everything.

Breaking Google's hold over Android is the most important security topic of all time. Everything else is secondary. GrapheneOS is not real security.

[-] Lemmert@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

But how does this tie back to your original statement about GOS security and tying itself with Google? The issues you're raising aren't even a GOS specific one. I also find it strange to not call it secure because services themselves are reliant on Google's services. That is not an issue any OS can solve. I say this as someone who does not rely on any Google services on my phone. I also believe you might be conflating security with privacy.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

The issues are not GOS specific. I am saying that GOS is selling snake oil, not real security.

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