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[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

But therein lies the hipocrisy. The nations that have had historically excessive CO2 emissions (especially per capita) should not be telling nations that emit significantly less per person what to do.

50% of cumulative emissions from 20% of global population. That's the data point that captures the reality of the situation we're in. Looking at the past 20 years or recent trends only provides a myopic perspective in my view.

Don't get me wrong, these nations have achieved an incredible quality of life for their people through this excess but they shouldn't be suprised when other countries work towards the same for their people, which will involve expanding utilization of conventional energy in the short term. You or I are not more worthy than a person in China, India or Africa of having a good quality of life.

Props to Norway to for the milestone but they do not manufacture EVs, they import them, and third are Teslas. Politics aside, Chinese EVs are innovating at a pace far beyond anything Tesla has been able to muster in the past 5 years. Innovation is important as it drives adoption.

I'm glad that the nations that have historically contributed the most to climate change are acting to offset that excess. I'm also very impressed with nations that are both expanding their grids and increasing proportion of renewable utilization simultaneously. Ultimately we all share this planet and what's happened in the past is what it is. We didn't know then what we know now. I think we both want to see global emissions decrease and here's hoping that we see more global collaboration towards that.

this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2026
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