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Here’s my two cents. It’s hard for people to keep up with the euphemism treadmill. There was a time when the word “female” didn’t have the negative connotation that it does now mostly thanks to co-opting by incels. It should also be stated that the word “male” doesn’t have the same negative connotations and it’s similar to how there’s slurs for black people but none for white people.

So why do people find “female” offensive? Well for starters it’s dehumanizing. Women is a less academic term and female implies some biological essentialism. I think the crux as to why it’s a big deal now is that women do not refer to themselves as females in the manner that men do. Men do not think of themselves as males, they do not call other men males, men call themselves men. male and female are simply outdated terms.

I suspect one day as society moves towards a more genderqueer position men and women will become unacceptable to say too. Idk. Like I think we need to acknowledge that there is such thing as a euphemism treadmill, that languages change, words become offensive or nonoffensive over time, and like all we can do in order to be a fucking decent human bean is to conform to society’s standards as to what is acceptable as according to the treadmill. Unless it’s some shit like calling the homeless, the unhoused. Then in those specific instances we got to run against the treadmill. But in this specific instance, we need to run with the treadmill on this one. Nothing feels better than conforming with society.

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

I'm going with comrade Feinberg on this, i use woman for the gender identity, feminine for the social role and female for biological characteristics. If you need an adjective relating to woman, it's womanly, if you need a noun relating to feminine, it's fem / femme, if you want to use female as a noun you better be talking about a dog and not a human being.

leslie-feinberg

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

if you want to use female as a noun you better be talking about a dog and not a human being.

But also don't talk about dogs like that

vegan-v

Ehh, calling a female dog a bitch makes me feel like an old-time British lady

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

you gots the best takes yet again

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly, it's mostly just a concept from some throwaway paragraph from Feinberg's Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue that i've ran with and then spiced up a little.

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago
[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

It's a good read, i think we even have a sticky about it today.

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

im start Tuesday! edit OMG ITS TUESDAY

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