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Make a dumb EV and you immediately get a lot of clients.
An EV doesn't need internet access, doesn't need mics and cameras inside, doesn't need a touchpad or a big screen.
Just give me a damn conversion kit... I love my current car and like none of the modern ones, with useless features and annoying stuff like the mandatory lane assist, but I'd gladly stop polluting if I could.
Yeah If I could get a conversation kit for my 01 Tacoma I'd be right fucken happy, I'd even sacrifice a quarter of the bed for battery space if need be. Would still have 2x the bed space of a cyberclunk as well.
This is what Slate Auto is doing with their truck.
Unfortunately with the US EV incentives gone the Slate is way overpriced for what it is. 150 mile range and manual crank windows and no radio or speakers at all on the base model for $28K. I can understand wanting a low tech vehicle but I think they might have gone a step too far.
I want them to survive so bad.
I don't need my vehicle to be a third place. I don't want a molded dash with an entertainment center that will be obsolete when it's new and unable to be modified because they abandoned the DIN standard so you could only buy factory replacements. I just want a thing that can do ~50+ miles a day and recharge that overnight. Which Slate could do with just a regular 120v outlet.
Who knows if they'll actually make it to market or if it'll be $40k+ by the time it does, but even without the EV incentive $28k puts it among cheapest new cars in the US. I'm just severely unenthusiastic about any other newer cars on the market if my current one dies.
That's why the Slate is the only EV I am even remotely interested in at this point. I hope it actually comes out and doesn't suck.
It looks like it is. Slate has been doing lots of irl photo ops recently
so has Aptera... stans have been true believing since 2009, and now a bill is going to make them illegal.
Isn’t Bezos behind Slate though?
I know there were multiple kickstarter type funding schemes for Aptera, but it’s not like the influence a couple billionaires exert. The main problem with Aptera though is all the other vehicles on the road. We need legislation to start shrinking trucks and SUVs and stop killing us all so easily before smaller lighter cars can happen. Maybe someday.
they'll come eventually
The first wave where the tech bros were you can leverage $ off them. Car manufacturers themselves said they were initially going after the high margin paying customer. You cant sell a new car here in Aus without all sorts of passive monitoring stuff,so that's an issue for a simple car.
now you're at the family level, mid size SUVs are prevailing here in Australian the BYD Atto 2 and similar models from Geely and KIA etc. Telsas are still unfortunately popular and we only get the 3 and the Y
most people want connected cars, my gf loves preheating our BYD when she heads off on an early morning start before she hops in, seats and cabin have been prewarmed etc. she likes the 360 birdseye cameras and I must admit they are very good.
When it's at a public charger you can monitor it while you're away so you don't get hit with idle fees etc albeit 90% of our changing is at home off solar panels. The biggest complaint from Cupra and VW EV owners in Australia is the lack of connected services though there is possibly a bunch of folks who bought them for that reason who aren't complaining.
It doesn't have to be a "dumb" car. Just don't route everything through a stupid touchpad. I know it costs more to install buttons but I don't want to have to hunt and peck through dropdown menus to turn on the radio or air conditioning. And I definitely don't want a subscription service, that will be canceled eventually, to access remote start.
No car needs that shit, but how else can they justify $60000?
The problem is tracking you provides them revenue since they can sell the data, so they make more money with a vehicle that tracks you vs one that doesn't. A non-tracking vehicle is less competitive if it has to be sold for the same or less money than one that tracks you.
Selling vehicles gets you more money than not. Build a car that people can afford and want to drive will earn you money. Tracking you is worth nothing if you don't buy it in the first place.
The problem is all the manufacturers have decided to track you, theres little to no alternative. I dont know if its proper collusion or convergent shittiness but thats whats happening
Someone on here turned me on to removing the sim from my electric. Gonna take 15 minutes when I remember to do it when I have time.
Now do it with the new ones that have eSim
Just find the antenna and clip it.
How well does clipping the antenna actually work?
If my FM radio antenna rusts and falls off, my FM radio still works. Reception will be shitty but it’s absolutely still usable for nearby or powerful stations.
When the GPS antenna inside my much-abused phone came loose, GPS got very unreliable but still often worked in a glitchy way.
If I clipped the external antenna on a car’s cell modem, would it not be the same way? Based on my experience with those other kinds of antennas I’d expect maybe the manufacturer would lose the ability to track me while driving in remote or mountainous areas, but generally in cities or highways it would still connect. Is it not so?
Nope, because your car's cell modem has to transmit. Your radio just has to receive.
I get where you're coming from but, for most people, such a car would be worse since it would have comparatively fewer features than the competition.