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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago

People not voting for her is why we're where we are today.

[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Kamala losing is like part 250 of a 250 part shitshow that started with Reagan and that is why we're here. You're just conscious enough to be around for this latest bit and aren't taught the previous ones in school, makes ya think?

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Goes back much further than Regan but the bastard did exacerbate things.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

What an utterly simplistic and reactionary statement.

[-] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Damn didn’t know people standing up to genocide are the reason we are still letting Israel genocide people. TIL.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

The people who "stood up" to genocide allowed the ones who genocide MORE into power. Good job!

[-] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh so you can never hold anybody to a higher standard since there’s always someone worse out there. Interesting. Must be miserable always settling in life.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh so you can never hold anybody to a higher standard

Literally no one said that. You're saying that to try to make your point stand, which it doesn't.

there’s always someone worse out there

Sure is. Now they're in power and things really aren't going well.

Must be miserable always settling in life.

It's called being an adult. A big part of being an adult is damage control. Welcome to reality, it's far from perfect and sometimes you have to choose the path of least destruction.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

You can indeed! But voting in the horribly broken US system is about harm reduction.

[-] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Alright well, enjoy voting for Gavin Newsom I guess. Crazy the election is 2 years away and we are already talking about “harm reduction”. Hope the DNC paycheck is worth it.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Just like Biden, voting in Harris would have been harm reduction in the short term, and harm multiplication in the long term. She would have continued to do nothing to address the treason that Republicans committed, and she would have done nothing to mitigate the terror that the next Republican president would bring. The only way voting for conservative Democrats is harm reduction is if no Republican ever wins an election again, and Republicans are going to win some elections.

The biggest difference if Harris had won is that Republicans would win in 2028, and they would have a competent fascist in the Oval Office. We need democrats who will fight Republicans, not just delay them.

[-] bear@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

The people who “stood up” to genocide allowed the ones who genocide MORE into power.

Is there any point at which you think we should draw the line in supporting our own party, even if the other party is still worse?

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but by that point both would be so ridiculously evil that there's nothing left to do but burn the whole thing down.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

We have already reached that point for a while now.

[-] bear@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

If genocide isn't that line for you, then what is?

[-] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean for a lot of us that certainly seems to be the way we see it already. We're just waiting for the rest of you to catch up.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago

Praise Allah for killing the petro dollar though

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Or maybe the fact that killing innocent children in Gaza was more important to her than winning the election is why we're here today.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Every single candidate who could have won was pro-Israel. That's the default position of the US government regardless of which party's in power. It's NOT the default position to randomly genocide, say, Iran, though. It is BS that you have to vote for more genocide support or less genocide support? Yes. But voting for more genocide support or not voting at all so the ones that support more genocide win worked out really well, huh?

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So you're saying the default position was to lose the election. She made the conscious decision to not want to win. All I'm hearing. There's a pathway to win she chose to do the opposite.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

You realize that presidential candidates also have to take international relations into account, right?

So breaking from Israel to win an election may not play out great with Israel after being elected. That goes for any of our allies.

But hey, we got a felon rapist pedophile that lets Israel tell him to do whatever they want him to do. So I guess that worked out for us, right?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

If Israel wants it, then it is the default position. If you don't think Harris would have bombed Iran, then I have a bridge to sell you

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Nah. We're here because braindead Americans can't accept that they aren't going to get a perfect candidate and are willing to burn their nation to the ground in retaliation for that.

Adults make the right decision, even if it isn't perfect. Adults don't need a candidate to be perfect in order to do what's right for their nation and themselves.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

You simpletons keep confusing "perfect" with "the bare fucking minimum"

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If only Harris had been an adult and made the right decision to try to win the election instead of sacrificing it because killing brown people was more important to her.

[-] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Perfect is really doing some heavy lifting. Sure shes better. I would have voted for her if i was an US-American. But shes still garbage. She kind of is controlled opposition. Making us look away from what would be actually good vs whats better than the worst option. It serves to legitimize their position in fear of the alternative. Thats not democracy. I am not saying that you should not vote, endorse or even accept the shitstain we get in the USA that is represented by Trump but running to the Democrats as the goal or seeing voting as the primary political action is a big blunder in my eyes. (again do vote).

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 weeks ago

You make it sound like democracy was a mistake

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean it kinda was but that's a much more complicated topic

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're just stirring the pot. Why do you want Trump to win?

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Shame too many people are willfully ignorant to the blood on their hands.

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