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Debunking the lie that “Israel created Hamas”
(electronicintifada.net)
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I'm asking because I said:
You then said:
I hope you can see why I read you that way. But I asked to confirm because I could be misunderstanding you. If I was wrong then simply say that and explain what you actually meant.
I still don't understand your point, because the context is still that they're being genocided and resisting.
You mean the election that the US tried to coup?
Hamas’s surprising landslide election victory in the 2006 Palestinian legislative election was met with anger and hostility, especially in Washington. The US reacted with a series of covert operations spearheaded by the US State Department that were initiated to topple the Islamist party which Washington and its allies have labelled a “terrorist group”.
Details of the US initiated coup emerged quickly after. Confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the US and Palestine, exposed a covert initiative, approved by President George W Bush and implemented by Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National Security Adviser, Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war.
Immediately after the election results were announced, Abrams met with a group of Palestinian businessmen in Washington and spoke openly of the need for a “hard coup” against Hamas. According to the Palestinians present, Abrams was “unshakable” in his resolve to topple Hamas. When they expressed concerns about the harm this would bring to Palestinian society, Abrams apparently dismissed their concerns, claiming that this would not be the fault of the USA.
Equally surprised by its victory, Hamas made overtures to Fatah to form a government of national unity. The proposals were initially rejected. Hamas’s attempt to gain legitimacy was also blocked by the US. Rice moved to thwart the group’s efforts to engage with friendly governments by writing a letter to US embassies all over the world urging them to insist that their host countries refuse to engage with the newly victorious Palestinian group.
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The US viewed the Makkah Agreement as “a devastating blow.” The Neo-Conservative American government had no interest in de-escalating the tensions and remained determined to deny Hamas any form of legitimacy. As soon as Hamas had formed a government, and had it approved by the Palestinian Parliament, the USA set about trying to isolate and undermine it. Several EU countries followed suit, prohibiting their diplomatic corps from making any contact with the new government. Their justification was identical to that used by the USA – they stated that they would offer no development assistance to the Palestinian Territory while it was administered by a government that did not recognise Israel and was committed to armed resistance.
At this point, the US State Department intensified its efforts to topple the unity government. It even prepared a blueprint for a coup, entitled “An Action Plan for the Palestinian Presidency – 2007”. The plan, dated 2 March 2007, outlined objectives, steps and timelines to enhance the power of the PA and its President. It also includes the transformation of the Palestinian security forces and a budget showing costs amounting to $1.27 billion...
With the US plan to topple Hamas thwarted, Israel moved to impose a full land, air, and sea blockade of the Gaza Strip, following the Islamist group’s victory over Fatah.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220614-hamas-and-fatah-battle-for-gaza-following-hamass-landslide-election-victory/
And how would you go about an election while under a fascist blockade and routine bombing operations?
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5721/Timeline-of-Gaza-blockade:-How-it-started;-how-it%E2%80%99s-going
https://www.ochaopt.org/sites/default/files/the_humanitarian_impact_of_the_blockade.pdf
https://theconversation.com/the-worlds-most-tragic-long-running-farce-the-gaza-conflict-30301
https://peaceandjustice.org/the-real-reason-israel-mows-the-lawn-in-gaza/
Do you anything about the PA?
This is about an end to Occupation and Genocide, how do you not understand that.
The PA is an arm of Israeli Apartheid, Occupation, and Suppression.
You gonna blame the Jewish resistance for the Holocaust next?
What the actual fuck
It comes full circle https://lemmy.ml/post/46039951/25207095
nah this is how I understand your
responses too. Make your point or leave it be.
Here is a palestinian secular left wing movements opinion on hamas
is it really that implausible that people don't get all that from some smug "huh and hows that going??" when we're talking about people getting genocided? Nah we're all alts hating on you because you're that important...
you're a zionist. opposing the genocide is meanigless if you also oppose the only armed resistance to it. You're not even presenting any arguments for it other than "islam bad". Make a proper sourced argument and don't just declare something to be true and anyone who sees it differently "a fool".
You're a zionazi with some real disgusting views on the Palestinian struggle.
Because the history of this struggle started on October 7th in your mind. You are a fucking idiot. Yes obviously hamas gave Israel the casus beli for the nakba despite not being founded for nearly 40 years after this, after Palestinians were put in concentration camps and the survivors being sent to the open air prison now called Gaza where cutting the grass is a common expression in Israel for their constant incursions and atrocities. You are ignorant beyond belief.
WOW you are victim blaming
Yes?? Then read it before dismissing any and all arguments being given to you?? Or are you just another liberal who can't and refuses to do any critical thinking.
Fucking hell, reasonable ideas? To surrender? Victim blaming the victims of genocide because they dared fight back? You're deeply disturbed.
read some of the shit you got linked. At this point your ignorance is voluntary. You don't actually have a point otherwise you would be arguing it
You are acting very condescending and smug when it comes to genocide.