Yea, keep bitchin Putin. You started this war and while Ukraine isn't going to win it outright, it has found a way to survive and potential thrive with the EU behind it. It doesn't even NATO at this point. Ukraine found away to adapt, sustain, and build global alliances. Russia has a axis of frienemies, and a dependence on oil ports that just keep getting blow up.

It can't even hold the Free Economic Zone it invaded as it's in a budget crisis over holding it, but giving it up means a political loss. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of idiots.

We could talk about the demographic flip and failure Russia is seeing because of this. Ukraine will see this too, but has better chances at being it's diaspora and new immigrants in.

Oh, and my original point was that Europe was in this fully when the defense industry from around the world started build industrial based in Ukraine putting their skin in the game.