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A lot of times torture doesn't work. The CIA had lots of problems with it. Especially over short times. They found you have to wear people down over weeks or months. Freezing cells, punishment loaf, no toilet, loud heavy metal music, no sleep for days, and even then it's not reliable. Then, like in the Clint Eastwood western Unforgiven , some people just up and die during torture due to a heart attack or other sudden stress-related condition.
I would expect that finding to mostly apply to torture in the name of obtaining ideologically significant information, though. It takes a long time to wear people down to the point where they'll betray things or people they're strongly committed to, especially if they're committed enough to be doing something that's interesting to the CIA. I wonder how much of that resistance translates to a situation in which all the torturers want is your wallet, though. I can imagine a lot of people being willing to die (or get closer to dying) to avoid giving up their comrades or strongly held beliefs. I can imagine far fewer people being willing to die to protect their Bitcoin.
What the CIA claimed is they had to do that to push them past the point at which they felt they could resist so Allah would forgive them for spilling their guts about their brothers in arms. A bitcoin wallet and you've got an hour or two to do it? No idea. Would you take an hour with a wrench for $9 million?
If I knew I only had to last an hour and that the wrencher definitely wouldn't kill me? Maybe (though I can't say definitely). A bunch of guys who may or may not be willing to kill me and may or may not kill me unintentionally busting into my house and engaging in open-ended torture in order to get at $9 million that I apparently need so little that I can lock it up in an encrypted wallet seems like a pretty relevantly different situation, though.
That only really applies if the victim is keeping something from them that really means something to them like another human or an ideology.
I could see anyone giving up any money real fast to avoid losing fingers.
Especially when it isn't their money, it's the company's money.