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[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Sure let's do everything but useful stuff

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

What's useful stuff at this point, shooting him? At least this will force the Republicans to vote against it making it look like they have something to hide.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

force the Republicans to vote against it making it look like they have something to hide.

It always cracks me up when liberals assume this matters to anyone.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You mean that thing they’ve done for decades that their base wants? Look at how they acted with Good and Pretti, they’re not even trying to make white people comfortable anymore*; the gloves are off. They know that anyone who hates them will hate them and anyone who loves them will let them get away with pretty much anything.

*In the past they’d at least try to make white people comfortable so that said group could ignore major issues. Now they’re shooting them, too.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Congress doesn’t use the 25th amendment, it’s the president’s cabinet.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

That is not completely accurate:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Congress can, indeed, create a commission that serves as a substitute to the cabinet for 25th amendment purposes.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

So the prize for removing Trump is empowering Vance. Is he more or less likely to nuke Iran?

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

Much less.

Nobody likes Vance. He was tapped for VP because he posed no apparent threat to 47. He can't hold the MAGAt personality cult together.

[-] iglou@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Doesn't this mean that Vance would need to approve it as well?

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

Yes. The 25th explicitly requires the involvement of the VP.

It could be argued that the Speaker of the House could do it if the VP position were vacant, but the 25th does not explicitly consider that situation.

[-] iglou@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Then it won't happen. Vance isn't stupid, he knows he can't hold maga on his own.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

I agree, he likely won't be able to hold MAGA on his own.

However, it's also likely that this is his only chance at the presidency. If he comes to that same conclusion, he may very well take his shot.

[-] iglou@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

He's relatively young. I think he might think he has a shot someday.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Congress can, indeed, create a commission

Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office

Nothing in here about a commission. A Congressional majority could just announce the President unfit and kick power over to the VP immediately.

Obviously, Republicans aren't going to agree with this. Obviously, JD Vance is a fucking hack who would continue the atrocities. That's why Dems needed to block the 2026 NDAA back in December when they had leverage over the Pentagon's budget. Now they've already rubber stamped the checks and there's little left to obstruct or apply leverage against.

But this just illustrates why "Forming a Commission" is bullshit. Is this really their plan for 2027? Spend a year fucking around on a vote to form a committee to research a bill to have another vote? So they can maybe hand JD Vance the keys to the White House? Assuming some dissident Fetterman tier Senator doesn't spike it while drapping himself in an Israeli flag?

Pathetic.

[-] pfried@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

This commission is the "some other body" that Democrats in "Congress may by law provide."

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

This commission is the “some other body”

They don't need "some other body" because it already empowers Congress.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 1 month ago

Impeachment action is limited to "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors".

Impeachment is not permitted for simple incompetence.

Congress is only empowered to remove the president by convicting him of a criminal act. Congress does not have the power to remove the president for dementia. Dementia is not a "high crime" or "misdemeanor".

To remove the president for dementia (or simple incompetence or other non-criminal disqualification) requires the 25th amendment. The VP needs the support of either the majority of the cabinet, or a majority of "some other body" that Congress has established for the purpose.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Dems can't get anything done in Congress, so they might as well poison the MAGA well for the Midterms.

[-] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure their purpose is to stall the public until the Republicans can win an election. If a wealthy person just happened to be born in a Democrat state, then that is the ticket they run on. I'd love to find out how many of them have family and friends that are all conservative.

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