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Smoking ban for people born after 2008 in the UK agreed
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Well, banning it worked perfectly for cannabis so why not
Yeah let's turn $5 packs of cigarettes into $20 packs of cigarettes. And then that extra $15 can go to fun things like human trafficking and hard drugs. Cool! Let's fund human trafficking and hard drugs everybody!
5 dollar packs of cigarettes? Americans truly have it great there. It cost 18.90 euro per pack in Ireland.
idk where in america that person is located. a pack is $20 and a carton is about $100 here, but i'm also in tobacco row where fighting phillip morris is just something we grow up knowing we have to de
It's not $5. More like $8-$10. Still, had no idea the EU was that expensive. With how much people smoke in the Balkans I wonder how they're handling it. I haven't been in several years.
If you smoke American Spirits it's 20
Plenty of countries in Europe have cigarettes for ~€5.
Isn't that the standing policy of the democrats.
It decreased cannabis usage, no? A measure doesn’t have to be 100% effective to be worth doing. That’s an argument an antivaxxer would make.
Also, it’s easy to go a couple of days without weed even when you’re heavily addicted. Now do that with nicotine.
No...no it didn't. Prohibition has never worked. All it does is create black markets and violence that follows.
See war on drugs in the USA
See prohibition of alcohol in the USA.
the best solution if you want to reduce light and hard drug usage is to increase quality of life via parks, libraries, and education. to quote my all time favorite poster, @DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com , "seriously!"
it seems counter intuitive that you should address drugs through not the drugs, but when you're dealing with drugs you have to take into consideration that the reason people use them is to address a chemical imbalance in their brain. drugs are a short term fix to a long term problem for the user. if you're going to address the long term problems with drugs, you have to create long term solutions to the problems that create a need for them. if you set up short term impediments to drug acquisition all you're doing is putting vulnerable people at greater risk
I actually have autism which is why I type like that mostly, but I DON'T always talk like that in real life.
Correct.
Education Safety nets Jobs Getting rid of the for profit prison systems And... making drugs legal
That's how you solve the issue. Not by banning something. That just creates black markets.
and once those black markets are in place you have a rather thorny problem. growing drugs is not mainly an agricultural skill, it is primarily a networkiig skill. a grower or dealer won't go straight because you've made the thing they do legal. they'll pivot to something else you've made illegal. but the best way to erode the black market isn't to target the cartel, it's to target the street level dork engaging in dangerous behavior because they're desperate.
the less desperation there is in the ecosystem, the less criminal behavior there will be
Using USA as a representative of the world is delusional.
Seems like a you problem
Assuming that people are magically different is delusional.
The USA is massive... literally a good chunk of the Western Europe fits into Texas.
Uhh what? We have EVs here, trump is trying his best to snuff them out but that's not happening.
Australia....had forced buyback in the 90s after the port shooting....60% turn in rate, 1mil owned arms by civs...today 3+Mil firearms owned by citizens in Australia...so did it really work? Or did society get less violent because of the education and safety nets that Australia has?
Yea...and that's not a ban?
This is not just a USA problem. Kids are getting dumber everywhere because of tech.
?????
Seems more like you're just projecting...
Not the point I know but:
No the buyback wasn't actually that effective as you noted, crime was already declining before the ban and as you noted number of guns increased since. Similarly in the US gun ownership (both % of gun owners and # of guns) have increased and violent crime of all kinds have decreased in the US in the same time. I "blame" surveillance states and probably stuff like taking the lead out of gas, personally. Also the same style buyback in the US would be monumentally expensive, not effective because of resistance, and not effective because of lack of social safety nets (listed separately on purpose.)