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I see how this would be considered a problem in the US.
In Europe we see these things differently. I have a number of apps already, that knows my government id. Honestly I don't know how many, I haven't needed to keep track.
All sorts of apps from drivers license to a social networking app, which all needs to know my exact id to work. Even my kids has their government id on their phones. This includes an app which only purpose is to prove the users identity.
Having one more appwith your id is not a problem. Specially when its purpos is to NOT show your id.
Why does any of your apps need to involve a government ID? Why do kids need ID on their phone?
First, government id has a very different ring here, than in the us. It's not that different from a name or a face. It's not s big deal. Almost anytime there's any need to be recognized formally, the government id is an easy way to do it.
We don't really use "all names and addresses you've had the past 5 years" and all that.
So think about any app, where you need to id yourself better than just an email adress or phone number. It will be all of those.
I have an app to access my medical record. Nobody accesses my medical record without identifying themselves, in a trustworthy way.
My bank app, with access to all my financials, including pension funds - same deal.
There's a payment app that is very popular here, the kids uses it too. It requires id. That id solves some issues that could have been solved in other ways, but since id is no big deal here, that's the easiest solution by far.
Exactly. We're not afraid of government overreach, but corporate overreach. In the US it's the opposite (if you include regulatory capture as government overreach). Both regions are underestimating risks in one of these areas. Dictatorship and oligarchy can happen and we should be careful
I'm an European (specifically from an EU country). I was born still in a Dictatorship, before the Revolution which brought Democracy, and I grew up hearing the stories of Censorship and the Political Police arresting people for criticizing the local Dictator.
I don't know who your "we" is, but it sure as hell ain't me or most of my countrymen.
A mandatory Government app on your phone is the kind of thing that rings alarm bells in people's minds around here because it stinks of Dictatorship and is a wet dream come true for a Political Police.
I lived elsewhere in Europe, so I can understand that people in countries which have long been stable and Democratic (say, The Netherlands and all of Scandinavia), have no memory of Authoritarianism and think that the Authorities only ever act for the greater good (which is why, for example, Swedes have zero concerns about every single payment they do ending up in a database), but pretty much everbody from Southern and Eastern Europe have either direct memories or heard the stories of just how bad the Authorities can be and just how bad it is to let them know what you're doing.