[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You really can’t say things like “anti-semitism ...

Very much the core of my point.

You "can't" voice objective judgments on some forms of Racial Discrimination unless they're aligned the Prejudices and Racial Preferences of certain people (like that moderator) with regards to the targeted ethnicity of that discrimination otherwise you're deemed "against the race" (good old "If you're not with us, you must be against with us") even if you're trying to make a level headed analytical judgement of the "matching firefighting resources to the size of the fire" kind.

No, no, no, you have to claim it's a giant fire, the greatest fire there is, or the Racists will deem you Racist for "denial" of the size of the fire.

The whole thing is a fucking sacred cow, to which logic "cannot" be applied (only it can, it's just that some people refuse to accept its conclusions unless they go the way they favor).

With the fight against Racism so thoroughly infiltrated by Racists, even if it's usually mainly the so-called "benevolent" Racists (those who hold positive prejudices about certain ethnicities rather than negative ones), it is stupidly easy for the malevolent Racists (such as supremacists) to infiltrate and weaponize it to serve malevolent ends, which is exactly what happened to the fight against anti-semitism which was infiltrated and mostly subverted to serve the supremacist ends of Zionism.

By reacting as they do (as I described above and as observed in that moderator's behavior) to any rational analysis of the Racial Discrimination against any ethnicity for which they have a Racial Preference, the "benevolent" Racists shield the "malevolent" Racists and their subversion of that specific fight against Racial Discrimination and this in turn also has a negative impact on the whole edifice of the fight against Racism since others will spot the hypocrisy of the situation and many will conclude (erroneously, IMHO) that "it's all bullshit".

Further, all those "benevolent" Racists also distort the allocation of resources in the fight against Racism, pulling in "more firefighters" to "smaller fires" and away from "larger fires", which is what I was trying to demonstrate when I brought up Romaphobia.

This is how we ended up with the shit-show which is the fight against anti-Semitism in the present day, were most of the fight isn't against anti-semites anymore, it's against those who are against Racism in general.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I agree, the way I put it and without the rest of the context it doesn't translate well the point I was trying to make, and even though I tried to clear my viewpoint in later paragraphs (especially the one about Humanism), it was either badly done, not read by most people or too late to change the idea they made in the previous paragraphs.

Still, from that to it being "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole” as stated by the mod is a huge, huge leap.

My whole point is built as follows:

  • Racial discrimination hurts people and is felt very personally by those victimized, as human beings not as "members of a race". It's the aggressors, not the victims, who see it as an attack on a race (in their twisted minds they're "fighting a race" and their victims have been dehumanized to nothing more than "members of a race").
  • So adopting the "it's all about races" point of view on racial discrimination is adopting the aggressor's perspective.
  • If you don't adopt that viewpoint, then racial discrimination is seen as human beings being treated unjustly and even made to suffer and killed by other human beings who use race as an excuse. That doesn't mean racial discrimination doesn't exist, it just puts it in context as the irrational motives of the aggressors. From that viewpoint the "alarm" and "urgency in addressing" cases of racial discrimination is based on harm caused and how often to the victims, not on what the aggressors think and hence not on the race of the victims.
  • So for me looking at it from this later - Humanitarian - perspective, the amount of attention and alarm (as reflected by the constant use of the word "anti-semitism") to racial discrimination specifically against the Jewish People is insanely disproportionate to the present day damage caused by that specific form of racial discrimination compared to racial discrimination against other ethnicities which is barely talked about (in Europe the most shocking example being Romaphobia), a situation which cannot be logically explained by "hurt minimization" (since there the greatest alarm would be about the greatest harm, not which ethnicity is targeted) and hence the only logical explanation left for such behavior is Racial Preference, aka Racial Discrimination, aka Racism.

Absolutely, of this was the 1940s from a Humanitarian perspective it would make total sense that anti-semitism would be the kind of racial discrimination that people should be most alarmed about and fight the hardest against, because that was the one causing the most harm.

80 years later, in the 2020s, anti-semitism is far from one of the top most harmful forms of racial discrimination and hence the disproportionate alarm about it we see in the Press in many countries and even often here, is either artificial for propaganda purposes and/or based on many people holding Racial Preferences (often whilst thinking of themselves as anti-Racists) and hence reacting differently to the various kinds of racial discrimination, purely based on the targeted race rather than on any considerations about the harm being done.

It's in this - pardon my French - pile of shit of widespread Racist perspectives even in the very core of the fight against Racism, that we end up with situations of people claiming "anti-semitism" when somebody criticizes the ethnic Genocide being committed by Israel in Gaza when the worst (when measured by actual harm caused) form of racial discrimination in the present day in the World is probably that of the majority of the Israeli population against Palestinians.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

There is genuine anti-semitism out there, a lot of it quiet and unvoiced but none the less translating into discriminatory behaviors against some people purely because they're Jewish.

(You can even see some obvious examples of anti-semitism here in Lemmy - which is supposedly more left of center and having in average more highly educated users - all the time: just notice those people who blame Jews in general for the actions of Israel, something anchored on the "logic" that a whole ethnicity is responsible for the actions of some individuals in it, a pretty common Racist trope)

That doesn't make any less real the chasm between how much the accusation of "anti-semitism" is thrown around and the actual prevalence and the intensity of anti-semitism in the modern era in Europe (which is what that thread was about and the whole thing was under a post entitled "Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities"), and the profound difference in how racial discrimination against Jews is treated versus how the racial discrimination against other ethnic groups is treated.

This is especially obvious when compared with the Roma People and Romaphobia, because in there the chasm is in the very opposite direction - in Europe the discrimination is huge yet the attention paid to it is minimal.

In my view this reflects the Racist Architecture in the minds of many self-proclaimed anti-racists - racial discrimination isn't looked at by them as a problem of injustices and even injuries committed against individuals by those who use race as an excuse (and hence were logically prioritization of addressing the problem should be based on harm done), instead it's looked at as a race thing - in other words, they're adopting the perspective of the aggressors (who in their twisted minds are "fighting against a race" and have objectified their victims as a "member of the enemy race") rather than that of the victims (who suffer as people, quite independently of race: it's not really their "race" that's hurting or even being harmed, it's them, human beings).

That a moderator actual thinks pointing this out is “Criticizing Jewish people as a whole”, is just extraordinary and in my view probably reflects the moderator's own internalized Racial Discrimination.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Mate, I don't know in which countries in Europe you lived in, but in all 4 countries of Europe I lived in discrimination against Roma People (or Travellers in the UK) was far, far larger and normalized than discrimination against Jewish People and yet, how many times have you heard or read any of the the words "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia" versus how many times have you heard or read the word "anti-semitism", especially in the Press?

Now, granted, I'm not old enough to have lived during WWII so I'm not going to claim it wasn't the other way around 80 years ago, but I can most certainly make informed claims about how widespread anti-semitism is in present day Europe compare to other forms of Racism against minorities and how right now claims of anti-semitism are vastly (tens of thousands, maybe millions of times) more often thrown around than for example claims of "Romaphobia" even though the latter is vastly more common.

(And that overuse of "anti-semitism" has become much worse since Israel started it's latest Genocide).

And yeah, special attention towards specific ethnicities and the racial discrimination against them, but not others, not because of the intensity and damage of that discriminations is higher but simply because of the target being a specific race, is itself Racial Descrimination and hence Racism: the Nazis too practiced "positive" discrimination in favor of the "Arian Race" - it's not on the footsteps of Humanists you are walking, it's on a whole different kind of bootprint.

And definitelly I FULLY STAND BY MY WORDS that the Fascist Pigs supporting Israel and its actions by throwing accusations of anti-semitism around against critics of Israel and its actions are just present day Nazism supporters with a different list of ubermenschen - putting a dress and some lipstick on a Fascist Pig and claiming they're "lefties" because now their Racial Discrimination is "positive" doesn't make such creatures any less Fascist Pigs and what they wallow in any less disgustingly racist.

The moderator statement that, when one makes the point that the level of attention and alarm towards a form of discrimination should be proportional to its prevalence and the damage it causes and not be decided solely based on the which race is being targetted, is "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole", just confirms that they follow the full-blown Racist idea that protection is deserved or not based on ethnicity and some ethnicities are more deserving of protection than others.

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So apparently for lemmy.world mods pointing out that the word "anti-semite" is far more used than "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia” even though the Nazis targetted both Jews and Roma in the Holocaust, is, somehow, "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole".

Or maybe it's the whole "I don't care about any one specific race, I care about people and think it's always unjusct when people are treated differently based on things they were born with, such as race" that was deemed "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole".

Good old lemmy.world: they were called on it repeatedly so eventually walked back on the whole "criticizing Israel is anti-semitic" but apparently if you don't go along with the view that racism against a very specific group is much worse than racism against people from other groups, then you must be against that specific ethnic group.

My comment in text for reference:

All clearly as frequently used as "anti-semitism" /s

And yeah, I don't care about race, any race, I care about people, which includes that they're not unjustly treated for things that were not their choice, such as the race they were born into.

It's Racists who feel the need to care about a race or races, defending things for some races which they do noit defend for others, doing little performances about how others must care about those races too and that those who don't "are against those races" - for them race comes first, defining a person and dictating how they should be treated.

For Humanists race is something that should be of as little importance to how somebody is treated as the color of their eyes or how tall they are, and yet they see again and again race weponized by Racists to treat people differently even though those people haven't actually earned such treatment through their actions: in other words race fro Humanists is something that should be irrelevant yet has been turned by others into a pivot for injustice.

It's pretty obvious from your little performance which one you are

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

CACO beats TACO.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Try sending an actual written letter: maybe it will be a little bit attention because in this day and age of e-mail, it's actual paper letters that are oddities that get people's attention.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, defining the cheat sheet limitation in such a way for Math students is really just asking for it ...

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 1 month ago

Is it just me whose reaction was "So?! What's the big deal?"

Don't get me wrong: good for her for having a big booty. It's just that I don't have any expectation of the girls in the picture being shocked, nor am I myself shocked or otherwise impressed by her crouching position emphasising said big booty.

For me the whole thing is a kinda normal teen/young-adult showoff pose, hence no big deal.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 3 months ago

The pettyness of all this shit is what's really shocking...

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 3 months ago

We don't live in a Meritocracy, not even close.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The AfD is the German version of the present day US Republicans and they only got 20% of the vote, not won both a Presidency (which in Germany is mainly a symbolic post) and an absolute majority in the Bundestag (roughly, their Congress).

Further, just like the effects of Brexit on the UK cooled down for at least a decade the anti-EU sentiment in the rest of Europe, what Trump and the Republicans are doing with the power they got in the US is likely to (once enough of the side effects of his actions pile up) cool down any love for that kind of Fascism in the rest of the West.

The Far Right has an ideological framework of purelly criticizing/complaining/accusing, which is great when you're an observer sitting on the sidelines and shouting about how those who are actually doing things are doing it all wrong, but doesn't at all work when they're in a position where they actually need to do things themselves, so they invariably fuck things up badly, generally because over the mid and long term the side effects of their actions completelly wipe-out any positive direct effects those actions were expected to have and then remain active and further destroying for far longer than the positive effects do.

IMHO, the danger for the rest of the West is far more that Elon and Trump start WWIII, than that people in other countries will be inspired to follow their ideology by seeing what they do with it in the US.

(The danger for the US, which I suspect is pretty much guaranteed since both major parties there have sided with the Pillager segment of society, is the country will be firmly and forever dethroned from its position as super power within a decade)

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're pushing the atoms on your end, which in turn push the next atoms, which push the next ones and so on up to the atoms at the end of the rod which push the hand of your friend on the moon.

As it so happens the way the atoms push each other is electromagnetism, in other words sending photons (same thing light is made of) to each other but these photons are not at visible wavelengths so you don't see them as light.

So pushing the rod is just sending a wave down the rod of atoms pushing each other with the gaps between atoms being bridged using photons, so it will never be faster than the speed at which photons can travel in vacuum (it's actually slower because part of the movement of that wave is not the lightspeed-travelling photons bridging the gaps between atoms but the actual atoms moving and atoms have mass so they cannot travel as fast as the speed of light).

In normal day to day life the rods are far too short for us to notice the delay between the pushing the rod on one end and the rod pushing something on the other end.

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