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Just reposting this excellent point from lemmygrad

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[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The only possible outcome? No, it wasn’t the only possible outcome but still a quite probable one. Maybe it wouldn’t have been needed but it was still justified as they could have posed a threat to the rwvolution

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

No, it wasn’t the only possible outcome but still a quite probable one.

Somehow I don't think they made this decision after siting down with a slide rule and a bunch of actuarial tables, so I don't know how they arrived at that balance of probabilities.

In reality it's more like cops defending their use of deadly force in any circumstances. They reckoned it had to be done, and their judgement is all that's needed to justify it, and now everyone else has to object to or rationalize their decision.

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Sometimes people really do make decisions with uncertain and incomplete information, and sometimes people kill a black teenager for fun and pretend they feared for their lives. These are not the same thing. I wouldn't have killed the kids, but it probably saved a lot of other kids.

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

but it probably saved a lot of other kids.

Why we don't say stuff like this? We can't tease out the tread of time and say 15 years late what our actions are going to cause. Not with any degree of certainly but also not with any objective or even methodical notion of "probability" that we seem so eager to fall back on. We can stand in the moment and make a decision. Do I shoot the unarmed kid or not? That answer is pretty cut and dry for any humanstic strain of thought.

The fact that I can conceive of a possible chain of events where that has unfortunate ramifications doesn't change that.

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