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Not keeping track of lies - The result
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The fact that there are multiple people in here believing both because "they were 3 years apart," I don't know whether that's funny or sad.
I know I said gullible was written on the ceiling but that was a second before you looked up, now it's written on the floor. Nope, you missed it again, back to the ceiling.
This is where you really gotta turn to that redsails article to explain how these people's minds work:
"But you don't understand, the news man said I have permission to use this to make fun of North Korea. Why are you spoilsports trying to take away my fun?"
Critical thinking doesn't enter into it at all.
I feel like all your objections are just about the terminology used in an article I didn't write. I wouldn't use the term "bourgeois proletariat" for example, but the actual point that the article is making is correct and insightful.
Yeah, no shit, that's the point.
There's people in here blindly believing this propaganda even when it comes from such a biased and unreliable source as the NYP. That's not because of a failure of critical thinking or because they're just "stupid" or something, it's because they simply choose not to engage in critical thinking at all. Because, as I said, they don't actually care whether it's true or not, they just enjoy getting a chance to shit on the DPRK to feel better about their own lives and their own system.
I don't see why you're so offended by this idea.
Jesus Christ, any time I cite any sort of theory about anything people immediately jump down my throat with this "appeal to authority" bullshit.
I referenced the blog not because it has any sort of "authority" but because it explains the concept quite well.
I'm sorry that, apparently unlike you, I'm capable of respecting insight regardless of whether it's written in the most proper, ideologically correct phrasing.
No. Message the author if you want a definition. I already told you I wouldn't use the term personally.
The overall point is quite clear regardless of that terminology. And you haven't said a single thing to contest that point, you're just whining about phrasing for no apparent reason.
What they mean is the proletariat of exploitative countries, those in the imperial core, who they see as having a distinct class character from the proletariat of exploited countries.
Does that satisfy your pointless pedantry? Of course not. Now you'll find another pointless detail to quibble over, or you'll nitpick my definition. Because the point being made seems to have struck a nerve with you, but you can't actually find anything to counter it so you focus on this nonsense.
If the shoe fits, wear it. I'm guessing you know it's true, at least on some level, and that's why you're doing this.
Literally just did.
Is this how I find out I have psychic powers? Who could've predicted this?
Yet again, completely ignoring the actual point so you can do this pointless nickpicking and pedantry. Not one word that you've said has actually been relevant to anything. Extremely predictable, again, it's because you know it's true and you're defensive about it.
I already told you it's not even my fucking term.
Seriously? You can fucking google it, dumbass. Everyone knows what a Westerner is.
I'm not playing your game.
What do you mean by, "your own words?" Can you define it? What does the word "what" mean? Can you define it?
You do this blatantly bad faith shit, I'm just gonna start throwing it back in your face. I don't care whether you call me a dumbass, I care if you're being intellectually dishonest, which you very clearly are.
Why didn't you answer my question? What does it mean to put something in "my own words?" Are you a dumbass? Why can't you answer that when you said it yourself? What's a "world view" by the way? Can you define that, or are you too dumb to?
Which the author is placing in their worldview. I have been abundantly clear that I do not agree with their terminology. You're just trying to attack me on complete and total bullshit because you know you can't address my actual point.
What's a viewpoint? Can you define it? What does it mean to refute something? Can you define it?
Why aren't you answering me? You must know what these words mean if you're using them. Are you a dumbass?
Say whatever you like. I've put up with your shit long enough and I'm just going to keep doing this.
Go ahead, say I'm acting in bad faith for doing exactly what you did.
We've already seen exactly how you respond when I do answer your bad faith questions, so expect that too.
Liberal's brain conveniently stopped working. All knowledge that could inconvenience them just magically disappeared.
Repeats "I am very stupid" ten times in a row, thinks repeating a lie often enough makes it true. Must have been a very painful hit to the liberal worldview.
Least obviously bad faith .worlder
A Westerner is someone that lives in a previous colonial metropole, usually Western Europe, or one of their settler nation states.
In other words, someone who does not live in the global south ie. those peoples victimized by colonial imperialism.
Why refer to them as the bourgeoisie proletariat? It's the first time I'm coming across the phrase but it makes sense. This 20% segment hold 80% of global wealth, to the great suffering of others. This 20% segment has historically contributed over 50% of cumulative carbon emissions, setting the planet on fire to indulge in relative excess, while looking down at those that have less than them. The very same people they stole from centuries ago.
While not talking about any one person in particularly, surely anyone can see that describing this segment of humanity as the bourgeoisie proletariat couldn't be more fitting g.
Now this is how you JAQ off, a real GOANer (going over all nitpicks) lol. Can't attack the heart of the argument in the post linked so you resort to this shit
I find the most useful term to be 'false consciousness'.