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Prohibition is never good, removing individual freedom is never good. I can see the point for some of these restrictions, to provide a safe basis for other people around (because we can't ask people to simply be nice), but more than that… meh.
I will not be up in arms to defend smoking rights, but that's probably not the way to do it.
Honest ignorant question: What would happen if you ban the products and not the act?
You never get charged for smoking, but you can have the cigarettes seized. No imports and no factories.
Why do you people CARE so much what other people do?!
Do you drive the speed limit? It protects others and future generations. Life would have been a lot healthier if someone hadn’t introduced that first cigarette to you 20yrs ago, and you would never have felt the loss.
We care about people, even if they hurt themselves (and tax dollars in future healthcare). Most people are better off never starting. It’s like trying to stop someone from hang gliding into a volcano. Sure it’s fun.. but most people shouldn’t do it.
I would rest easier knowing there is less of it around for kids to get peer pressured into locking themselves to it.
We used to drink beer for breakfast in this country and now you're asking to give the officers reason to stop and search you to check if you've bought the cigarettes from a legitimate place?
I have no idea how that would change thing. I just base myself on previous (and current) attempts at banning things. It never goes well.
I generally agree that prohibition doesn't work, and is bad, but having an absolutist position like this is usually problematic. For example we have to restrict some people's freedoms. Like some people want to harm or kill others, that should not be a freedom people have.
Most things in life have a lot of nuance, which means we can't usually make blanket rule for things.
In saying all that... Prohibition usually doesn't solve the issue, sometimes makes it worse, and often ends up hurting people who are already suffering (usually why they resort to harmful substances)
if removing individual freedom is never good, then you shouldn't be able to smoke, because people should have the individual freedom to not breathe your fucking tar smoke.
I should then have the freedom to never see an ugly face, either. Also, no fucking tuna fish. It’s nasty. Also I hate the scent of certain perfume. Illegal.
Also homeless people stink…
seeing a face and being poisoned aren't comparable, try harder.
no other drugs are "free" to force on others.
also smokers are the last people who should say anything about people stinking.
That sounds more of a case for banning smoking in public areas specifically except for possible designated places.
yeah because smoke famously stays in place
Smoke disperses. If you aren't up someone's ass while they smoke outside you'll never even smell it, let alone get health complications from it.
If it's windy it's going to spread far and if it isn't it's going to linger. It stinks and most people can smell it.
Okay then ban farting. I much prefer accidentally inhaling tobacco smoke than someones shit in gas form getting in my lungs
You said it stinks you genius
go back the chain of comments and find it