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I agree with you that you can’t support the current Netanyahu government and IDF and be anti-genocide.
Hamas abducted and kills innocent people. That’s a fact. I can be anti-genocide and anti-attacks on civilians without contradicting myself.
A two-state solution is messy and complicated but it’s what the world needs. Arabs and Jews both have claims to the land throughout history. The Jews were displaced from it due to horrific antisemitism throughout history. One horrific act doesn’t deserve another. The west (and specifically the USA) needs to withhold its support, Israel can do what it’s doing specifically because it’s emboldened by western support. It’s surrounded by Arab nations that hates its people, it could be the ones being oppressed if not for the west and the west remind of that.
Do you agree that the problem is not only Netenyahu and the government but the state policies that never changed since the illegitimate creation of the state? Do you agree that war crimes do not make legitimate targets against a colonials genocidal army illigitmate?
A one-state solution is messy and complicated but it’s what the world needs.
I agree with your statements that the problems go beyond just Netanyahu but I would characterize the establishment of the current state as problematic than illegitimate.
Then discourse then would be whether the Jewish people have a claim to the land, the same as Arabs. I believe, despite the wrongs of the crusaders, colonialism, and religion in the region; they do.
I hate that the region is more or less established due to geopolitics, exploitation by the wealthy and political classes, and religious fervor than fairness than the right of a people to self-govern.
No, it was illigitmate since it was created by ethnically cleansing Palestinians
Jews who never left the land have claims to it. Europeens zionists thst without rhem Israel would not exists don't
It is because the region is a key economical region for over a millennium for empires. Empires was using it to put pressure on other empires by denying access to ressources
Yeah it's intriguing to me that there are those here who have a curious propensity to turning a blind eye to the legitimate war crimes of Hamas, Ayatollah, IRGC (and leaving aside their own domestic murder of citizens), Russia, and China. There seems to be a pattern here...
That's not me saying I condone the disproportionate acts of Netanyahu's far-right extremist regime either and I hope he faces charges for his war crimes.
This is the "don't let perfect be the enemy good" crowd when it comes to resisting genocide. Youre ok with the dems supporting genocide, murder of hundreds of thousands, and tell people to support them, but when the only armed resistance of a desperate people lashes out in their desperation you condemn them immediately and would likely prefer them disarmed despite the consequences for this.
I hope you've never used tahini or purchased store-bought hummus before, lest you too likely supported genocide!!
By all means, I hope you're voting in your state's Democratic primary or better, nominating yourself as an independent candidate from AIPAC! That is of course if you're even American... ?
Lmfao do you think either is a pissrahelli invention??? Of course I check where my groceries come from 😂 that is such a basic action
Do you know how Primaries work?
the democrats held a farce of a primary in 2024. my own turbo-zionist rep ran unopposed and all the people voting 'uncommitted' were actively ignored at the federal level
sabara is dog vomit and i generally buy greek or lebanese tahini around here
Why didn't you run against or support someone else to run against own turbo-zionist rep who went unopposed?
That's not a sign of a broken system; that's unfortunately a sign of good people doing nothing -- which is what I'm advocating for here. Sitting out only lets evil run rampant.
Agreed on the hummus.
If you actually believed this, that running against zionist reps within the democratic party is doable and a viable strategy, and aren't, then the only reasonable conclusion is that you are putting together your campaign or agree with the turbozionism of the dem establishment.
Why is this criticism only ever directed at others? I really only see these options
or you agitate outside, that's how the zionist mamdani got elected. It was a ton of effort that took place mostly outside the dem establishment but as soon as they went inside the zionism started to creep in.
Organize with the PSL.
Sorry I am genuinely struggling to understand your first paragraph but if I understand right -- Yes, we can defeat zionist candidates just as Talarico did against Crockett. Just as Mamdani did against Cuomo.
Ultimately these candidates run within the framework of the Democratic party to success. I have no problem with this, and I have no problem who advocates for these candidates either within or outside of the Democratic party so long as it actually is on the Democratic ticket and changes the composition therein.
yeah let me just conjure shitloads of money i don't have to run against a hostile party within their own apparatus instead of my day job. very reasonable suggestion.
the system is beyond broken, blaming that on individuals does nothing but make you feel better
also one of your earlier responses was extremely off-putting. you called armed resistance to occupation 'legitimate war crimes' while describing actual genocide that the democrats were complicit in as 'disproportionate acts' which you attributed to the machinations of one individual.
equating the oppressed with their oppressors and blaming individuals is something that makes it hard for me to want to engage with liberals with anything other than hostility
Sorry but that sounds like a bunch of excuses from choosy beggars.
How do you think AOC or Bernie Sanders got their start? They certainly weren't rich; nor did they take from special interests. From Mamdani to Talarico, people are stepping up! Are you? Be the change you want to see in the world!
some of us have to worry about paying rent and shit, believe it or not there's not a lot of institutional backing for trans anarchists in electoral politics, just genocidal warmongers
you just sound out of touch
I'll repeat the deflected:
How do you think AOC or Bernie Sanders got their start? They certainly weren't rich; nor did they take from special interests. From Mamdani to Talarico, people are stepping up! Are you? Be the change you want to see in the world!
lol what, do you think rent was cheap for AOC and Sanders?
Gee, I wonder why. Not only can they not muster any candidates whatsoever or attract anyone by the power of their ideas, they also don't seem to play nicely with others either.
don't be petulant
i love how the two major examples of outsiders you present both routinely vote for funding the genocidal ethnostate and they're also considerably more moderate than i am. social democrats - compatible with empire.
i don't view electoralism as something worth participating in, because it's a bourgeois farce. i'm not interested in playing nice with hitlerite liberals
Idk what to tell you. Choosy beggar who literally made up excuses why they can't run and that their ideology is very unpopular and they cannot persuade people to support them in any sort of numbers.
I think you're online way too much.
Don't engage in it; refuse to do something to actually change or fix. Sit on pyrrhic positions in what is effectively nihilism at best; accelerationist at worst.
Almost more dangerous than a Trump supporter.
Oh, and Slava Ukraini?
trust me, arguing with hitlerite liberals and voting is the least of my political activity; certainly not interested in talking about what i do with people like you though.
from my perspective people like you are the accelerationists; you prevent any positive change and insist everyone vote for your preferred genocidal warmongers as the full scope of political activity while the world burns
gesundheit
Yeah people vote and if it doesn't go in the way the establishment wants then superdelegates can correct for the general publics error. See e.g. what happened to the zionist bernie sanders.
Proof? Strong evidence even? Vaguely pointing to sanders (for whom I voted) does not mean anything -- which is why Bernie Sanders himself continues to caucus with Democrats and does not adopt your approach, including but not limited to the likes of Mamdani, AOC, etc.
There is a very detailed write up floating around somewhere I'll link it if I find it, in the meantime https://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/superdelegates-hillary-clinton-nomination/index.html
I believe she won a majority of pledged delegates independent of superdelegates -- however, this I do agree with how fucked up that was as someone who campaigned for Sanders that year.
But further; a) Why has Sanders continued with Democrats then (even running again in 2020), and b) it's worth noting the rules on superdelegates changed after 2016. So, progress
The allied forces did war crimes, people did not ask Allies to stop resisting the axis forces. Same apply to Hamas. War criminals on both Israeli and Palestinian should be held accountable only after the establishment of a Palestinian state and a peace process.
Do you realize every goddamn israeli prime minister was a war criminals responsible of killing, raping and torturing palestinians? You should stop saying I oppose Netenyahu or the government , you should say I oppose Israeli state policies of colonization and genocide
I'm glad that you acknowledge the horrific acts Hamas is guilty of. So many people on Lemmy are in straight up denial or even support of Hamas' violence. It is disturbing.